Key In warning - Just an idea.

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Robsey
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Key In warning - Just an idea.

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After watching another one of Italjohn's videos on you tube, I came up with this idea.

Firstly - the video link.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C5MeILjfAvc

It is to add an ACC position to your ignition switch loom.

Having done that, I thought about the lights on warning circuit that was discussed a few months ago.

viewtopic.php?f=39&t=162720&p=8289958#p8289958

Looking at my posts on the last page...
It has three inputs.
One wire for ignition live. (Pin 15)
One for lights on. (Pin 30)
One for the door dip-switch. (Pin 31b)

I raided my box of old relays... and found a warning buzzer from my mk2 Cavalier.
This one is a buzzer, not the later warbler.
Part number is 90 240 665.

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For this circuit,
I replaced the number plate live with an input from the ACC or "Su" position on my ignition switch.
In my case, I would need to add a small female spade and wire to the switch socket.
Check you have the pin in your switch too.
Mine is 6 miles away in my stripped down van.

That is - the three inputs are now: -
Ignition live (15)
Accessory live (30)
And ground via a door pin switch (31b)

I am sure that this could be useful for people who forget to take the keys from the ignition before dropping the door pin and slamming the door shut.

Although 'educated' van users would use the key to lock the door from the outside.

But I am the first to put my hand up and admit fallability.
1983 Tin Top with a poorly DF and 4 speed DT box.
Soon to have a whizzy 1987 DJ.

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Can you push the button down and close/lock the drivers door ?  I thought they all had an anti lock out feature.
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You are probably correct...
That may be why nobody has mentioned this before.

I usually am the last to the party. :)

The 1983 owner's manual confirms your statement.
The driver's door cannot be locked by the pin with the door open.
But the passenger side can....

I will have to test the theory when I next see the van.
I only have my old / spare passenger side here to play with.
1983 Tin Top with a poorly DF and 4 speed DT box.
Soon to have a whizzy 1987 DJ.

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Aye, I’ve found the ease of entry and egress from the sliding door means it’s an easy way to lock the keys in… Only done it once (so far).
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Just to make this a squidge more tricky.
A lot of early vans have a very basic ignition switch.

No 'p contact and no 'Su' contact.
Boo hiss.

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So if you did want to upgrade, you need to buy a later switch too.
Thankfully - by modern standards they are very inexpensive.

Removal from the ignition barrel is easy -
After you have removed the front cowling and electrical connector it is just one screw underneath...
1983 Tin Top with a poorly DF and 4 speed DT box.
Soon to have a whizzy 1987 DJ.

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