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Fall Apart Dave is selling a turn key engine on the for sale section. What's one of those then?

(google has proven remarkably useless at delivering an answer)

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sold or turned over to a buyer in a ready-to-use condition

Yeah, I saw that but it doesn't really give an answer - just says a drivetrain (engine + transmission). The turn key engine described by FAD sounds like something specific. Is it not?

Sounds like some kind of fancy aircold motor mate .... not of any interest to me and thee

Ian

turn key as in ( a special product) from start to finish.

A turn-key or a turn-key project is a type of project that is constructed by a developer and sold or turned over to a buyer in a ready-to-use condition.

worked on lots of turn key packages in the engineering world.

ie we build it............they turn the key..and off it goes ( well sometimes)

verat25

In this instance a better description may be 'plug and play' ... i.e. fit the engine turn the key and it's a guaranteed runner.

Ian

Ah, plug and play - now that I understand. The age of the digital ...

jamesandtheopenroad wrote:Ah, plug and play - now that I understand. The age of the digital ...

love it

Nice term but I'm sure in this instance it is used to describe an engine 'ready to go' just connect it up, fill with lube and coolant start & run. So this implies most anchillaries are included ie: water pump/coolant housings/belts/flywheel maybe clutch/carburettor or injectors/distributor/alternator perhaps etc

The opposite would be an engine where you have to add your old sump/flywheel/manifolds/distributor/leads/water pump/belts/alternator and pulley's...so definately not 'turn key'.

Martin

California Dreamin wrote:
The opposite would be an engine where you have to add your old sump/flywheel/manifolds/distributor/leads/water pump/belts/alternator and pulley's...so definately not 'turn key'.

Martin

Isn't that known as a "short" engine?

Turnkey generally means "It ran fine when I last used it. Bung it in and it should get you about. After that you're on your own"

Short Engine is: Block/crank/pistons and sump...thats it...no heads or anything else for that matter.

Martin

erm no that'd be a short block mate, and it would include the portion of the engine block below the head gasket but above the oil pan. An in-block cam engine will also include the camshaft and timing gear.

A short engine is an engine without ancilliaries.

Installed a few Kev...Short engines, Full engines.....every manufacturer has it's own interpritation...Mercedes used to do a a full engine with everything...just connect wiring harness, cooling pipes, engine mounts, and gearbox. megga expensive tho. I know VW offered short engines the way I described...minus head...I can remember doing a few MK2 Polo's and Golfs like that and the parts department always refered to them as short engines....but like I say what the engine actual comes with varies quite alot, there are no hard and fast rules as to what this description includes.

Martin