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Propane and butane?
Posted: 18 Jul 2006, 09:47
by purplechugster
Due to me being a gentleman ("No love, you cant have the van for the weekend, Im going surfing, you'll have to use the tent") my other half is taking the 'outdoor stove' camping this weekend.
The van had two gas cylinders in when we bought it - propane and butane. We routinely use the butane on the van's cooker (propane is for when its cold? Is that right?). There's no reason we shouldnt use the propane cylinder for a gas cooker is there?
Whats the difference between the two? (okay, butane is CH3 (CH2)2 CH3, and propane is C3H8, but thats not a lot of help) I just want to make sure the cylinder wont turn into a fireball in the sunshine!

Re: Propane and butane?
Posted: 18 Jul 2006, 10:33
by Bowton Lad
purplechugster wrote:
The van had two gas cylinders in when we bought it - propane and butane. We routinely use the butane on the van's cooker (propane is for when its cold? Is that right?). There's no reason we shouldnt use the propane cylinder for a gas cooker is there?
IIRC the regulator pressures for butane & propane are different so you would have to adjust the regulator to the correct pressure for whichever gas you are using. It's possible there may be something about this in the wiki.
Re: Propane and butane?
Posted: 18 Jul 2006, 10:55
by Grun
Bowton Lad is right,
regulators here
I dont know of any other reason it would not be safe, but I am NO expert.
Definition of an expert:- "An Ex is a has been and a spurt is a drip under pressure"
Don't know though, probably qualify on both counts!
Mike
Re: Propane and butane?
Posted: 18 Jul 2006, 11:27
by Grun
More info.
Apparently from 2004 all appliances supplied within the EU have been standardised to run at 30mb either on Butane or Propane. Instead of 28mb Butane and 37mb Propane.
The regulator retailers appear not to have caught up yet, (or are still supplying for older appliances of course.

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Mocki will put you right later I'm sure.
Mike
Posted: 18 Jul 2006, 12:13
by purplechugster
Looks to me like we've got a butane regulator on it, so thats 28mb, and the 'appliance' (right grubby cooker) should be set for 30mb. So should be okay?
I'll take a match to it this evening and hope all goes well

Posted: 18 Jul 2006, 15:38
by T2Andy
The regulators are not interchangeable with the bottles, so you can not put a butane one on a propane IIRC, and of course they are the same colours as the relevant bottle, I used to always use propane before I got the Westy with the fixed LPG tank.
You will not have any problems with the sunshine etc.
Posted: 18 Jul 2006, 15:59
by purplechugster
T2Andy wrote:The regulators are not interchangeable with the bottles, so you can not put a butane one on a propane IIRC, and of course they are the same colours as the relevant bottle,
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Oh. Now Im confused... The cylinder is blue (like the butane one) but says propane on it... and the regulator (also blue, and is exactly the same as the butane regulator on that piccy) fits it fine
T2Andy wrote:
You will not have any problems with the sunshine etc.
Okay, so Ive got a cylinder presumably full of an inflammable gas that shouldnt explode and that has a regulator that fits... tell you what, I'll light the cooker and see what happens
Thanks for your help - even if Im still a bit confused!

Posted: 20 Jul 2006, 12:45
by T2Andy
Perhaps I am causing your confusion

I was referring to the Calor bottles, if they are not Calor maybe the colours are different.
Posted: 20 Jul 2006, 15:06
by Horza
Like flippin walkers crisps, blue isn't cheese and onion nor should it be propane. It's not right I tell you!!
Posted: 24 Jul 2006, 15:51
by T2Andy
Horza wrote:Like flippin walkers crisps, blue isn't cheese and onion nor should it be propane. It's not right I tell you!!
Stilton crisps mmmmmm!!!