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I've recently found a good JX lump and am gonna put it in my van to replace a normally aspirated 1.6 which blew up on me. What I'm wondering is what I'll need to get bits-wise to complete the upgrade...

I've got the old engine and all the bits, and I've now got the main block of a JX with alternator brackets, water pump (though I think my old water pump would've been ok) , will my old sump be ok for this engine? I know I'll need a turbo and pump but can anyone tell me exactly what else I'll need?

Also it needs a new set of piston rings, anyone know where I can get 'em? GSF don't stock anymore.

Thanks guys

John

What was the old engine code? We rebuilt a JX turbo from the block up with the help of a good mechanic's workshop and access to an old golf engine. The only scary thing was the amount of nuts and bolts we had left at the end from the 2 engines! Glad i had the help of the mechanic throughout!

You'll need quite a few handy tools to do it like a piston ring clamp etc.. Don't have the complete list of what we got as it's in storage at the mo but we did get all the seals, gaskets (rocker, sump and head), head bolts, glow plugs, piston rings, piston bearings, new water pump, new coolant pipes, fuel pipes, belts (for alternator, timing and water), crank oil seals. from GSF in one go. Surprised they don't do the rings anymore - try google?
We also got a new turbo online, New cylinder head (second hand that had done 15 miles!!) and we got the fuel pump fully serviced and re calibrated to factory settings and all of that if French!!

Stick with it though - it is soooo worth it the first time you turn the key and she starts up!!

I personally think its not the best move.

Getting all the bits together to do a non turbo to turbo swap is one thing (and by the sound of it you dont know what that involves) - but then putting in a knackered JX in after all that just seems a bit strange.

Surely its better to do it once and do it right? I'd be looking to put a AAZ in or just a plain old 1Y without the turbo.

Unless of course you have lots of money and time - then fair enough, these vans are a great hobby

Now i apologise if you are just asking the question because you are not sure and just want information, its just in my experience there is no cheap way really.

Have you got the JX complete with turbo and sump? If you have then it does make a tiny bit more sense...

Ringo

when you went from a 1.9 n/a to the aaz..did it increase the insurance Rich ?
i remember back in the 90's i had an astra with a turbo and the difference was over 100 quid more..dunno if its still the same.

i'd be looking at a 1y too,its simple and for say 250 quid its done, and no turbo to worry about.

unless he wants to stick to the original engine specs of course

My insurance did go up but it wasnt just because of the engine. In fact, i dont know if the engine had anything to do with the increase.

I went from Liverpool & victoria (on a very cheap poor policy that wasnt even a motorhome one) to Glynwoods with everything declared. After i'd put the AAZ in i was worried that if it got nicked i would just get £1200 back for panel van. Glynwoods reassured me i'd get a good deal....

Ringo

Haven't been inside the JX yet, if it's knackered then I've not lost too much cash and I'll consider something else. It's just that the van is in Scotland with no engine, and I figured (because I have a great mechanic mate who'll talk me through the rebuild) the cheapest way to get it back on the road and back to Yaarrkshire is to put the JX in- should just drop in right? I have a spare head to put on, have been assured that a set of piston rings will do the trick but I'll let ya know when I've been inside the thing....

Been told my old n/a sump will do nicely, with Baxter's oil return kit of course, but I'll do it all as cheap as poss.....

You could install the JX engine non turbo untill you get back to Yaarrkshire.New rings can be obtained from engine reconditioners try fleabay.Once you get the cylinder head on and timed up fit your 1.6 CS inlet&exhaust manifold + airbox once the engine is back in the van.Then you can take your time scourcing parts for running it turbo. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-1-6-2-4-LT ... 3a5e88b034" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; or try http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-Golf-Lupo- ... 2560f34b0d" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Have you got the JX inlet manifold?
Have you got the JX exhaust manifold (plus add the cost of getting it skimmed)?
Have you got the bit of silicon that goes from the turbo to the inlet manifold?
Have you got the air filter suitable for a turbo (including pipe work)?
Thats with the sump conversion kit (£74?).

It aint cheap mate.....

Ringo

Yep Ringo all you say is true, but the thing's been lying for two years doing nowt and I have no vehicle, and I just don't wanna buy a car again- ye cannae get an 8x4 sheet in the back o' a car!!!!!

Ultimately I want a 1.9 or 2.5 mTDi in it, already have the pump from Giles Gallie, but this is just to tide me along and give me a vehicle. The PLAN is to source all the bits cheap and that's what I intend to do, but realise that reality will kick in- my mechanic mate is pretty resourceful and also a realist, so I'm relying heavily on him.....

Meantime if anyone has the bits I need and wants to get rid please let me know, and thanks so much guys for the replies xx

So why aren't you putting a 1y in then?
Damn site cheaper than putting a knackered jx in.

Just curious

Ringo

'kin' skint mate and have a JX lump- it remains to be seen whether it's knackered yet