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Timing Belt Disaster....what to do next?

Posted: 27 Jul 2011, 15:49
by jamesrobertlowe
I am looking for some advice.... for four years have blissfully owned a 1988 1600tdi westfalia hi-top joker imported from Germany. Had just taken the really difficult decision to sell the van as we just don't get out in it enough - and I think the van overheard, as the timing belt went while driving home from the west coast of Scotland.
:oops:
One loud bang and one long tow home later, we're wondering what the best course of action is - we still want to sell, even though the van clearly wants to stay on..... :roll:

(1) replace the timing belt kit, water pump, cylinder head and head gasket
(2) get a reconditioned engine fitted (any recommendations in Scotland -we're in Fife?)
(3) try to sell as is

I'm not an engine expert, so any work would have to be done by a garage.

Any views or advice greatly appreciated

Re: Timing Belt Disaster....what to do next?

Posted: 27 Jul 2011, 16:17
by Titus A Duxass
Fit a recon 1,6TD or go for a VW 2.0 Litre Petrol conversion (2E 8v motor from a Passat or Golf )

Re: Timing Belt Disaster....what to do next?

Posted: 27 Jul 2011, 16:21
by kevtherev
Audi 80 (09/91-07/95), Volkswagen Golf, Volkswagen Transporter (T4), Volkswagen Passat, SEAT Ibiza Mk2 (02/93-08/97), SEAT Córdoba (09/93-08/97), SEAT Toledo (05/91-04/97), Škoda Felicia

All these are AAZ 1.9 TDi and fit easily in the engine bay

specifiation..

1.9 R4 TD 55kW

identification
parts code prefix:??? ID oode: AAZ, ADE, ABL
engine configuration & engine displacement
inline four cylinder (R4/I4) turbodiesel; 1,896 cubic centimetres (115.7 cu in); bore x stroke: 79.5 by 95.5 millimetres (3.13 in × 3.76 in), stroke ratio: 0.83:1 - undersquare/long-stroke, 474.1 cc per cylinder, compression ratio: 22.0:1
cylinder block & crankcase
grey cast iron; five main bearings
cylinder head & valvetrain
cast aluminium alloy; two valves per cylinder, 8 valves total, timing belt-driven single overhead camshaft (SOHC)
aspiration
Garrett turbocharger
fuel system
timing belt-driven Bosch mechanical distributor injection pump, indirect fuel injection into whirl chamber
EWG-rated motive power & torque output, ID code, application
55 kilowatts (75 PS; 74 bhp) — ADE: Volkswagen Industrial Motor (04/94-01/02)
DIN-rated motive power & torque output, ID code
55 kilowatts (75 PS; 74 bhp) @ 4,200 rpm; 150 newton metres (111 ft·lbf) @ 2,000 rpm — AAZ

Re: Timing Belt Disaster....what to do next?

Posted: 27 Jul 2011, 17:21
by California Dreamin
For the most part a snapped cambelt just bends valves and superficially damages the head, sometimes it damages the head to a point that the head needs replacing.
The bottom end usually gets away without damage.
If it were mine I wouldn't be thinking of a new engine quite yet as it's likely to turn out to be not as bad as this. The top end needs removing and properly investigating but I am hopeful this will just be top end.
Therefore, the cheapest option is likely to be a good used cylinder head, new head gasket and cambelt kit.

Martin

Re: Timing Belt Disaster....what to do next?

Posted: 28 Jul 2011, 09:19
by jamesrobertlowe
Thanks for all the advice, guys! Much appreciated. :D

I guess the first step is for my garage to assess the damage properly - and reckon the biggest factor will be the labour cost to put it right, either way.

Re: Timing Belt Disaster....what to do next?

Posted: 28 Jul 2011, 10:21
by Aidan
take a look on campervanculture I'm sure Jed did a piece on changing his head gasket, it's not that difficult, and much of that job is the same as changing the head, iirc he did change the head

Re: Timing Belt Disaster....what to do next?

Posted: 29 Jul 2011, 09:31
by footstuck
They can bend rods.
Two in my T4, and severly messed up the crowns on those pistons.
All affected parts were changed(ABL engine code).