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Timing Belt Disaster....what to do next?
Posted: 27 Jul 2011, 15:49
by jamesrobertlowe
I am looking for some advice.... for four years have blissfully owned a 1988 1600tdi westfalia hi-top joker imported from Germany. Had just taken the really difficult decision to sell the van as we just don't get out in it enough - and I think the van overheard, as the timing belt went while driving home from the west coast of Scotland.
One loud bang and one long tow home later, we're wondering what the best course of action is - we still want to sell, even though the van clearly wants to stay on.....
(1) replace the timing belt kit, water pump, cylinder head and head gasket
(2) get a reconditioned engine fitted (any recommendations in Scotland -we're in Fife?)
(3) try to sell as is
I'm not an engine expert, so any work would have to be done by a garage.
Any views or advice greatly appreciated
Re: Timing Belt Disaster....what to do next?
Posted: 27 Jul 2011, 16:17
by Titus A Duxass
Fit a recon 1,6TD or go for a VW 2.0 Litre Petrol conversion (2E 8v motor from a Passat or Golf )
Re: Timing Belt Disaster....what to do next?
Posted: 27 Jul 2011, 16:21
by kevtherev
Audi 80 (09/91-07/95), Volkswagen Golf, Volkswagen Transporter (T4), Volkswagen Passat, SEAT Ibiza Mk2 (02/93-08/97), SEAT Córdoba (09/93-08/97), SEAT Toledo (05/91-04/97), Škoda Felicia
All these are AAZ 1.9 TDi and fit easily in the engine bay
specifiation..
1.9 R4 TD 55kW
identification
parts code prefix:??? ID oode: AAZ, ADE, ABL
engine configuration & engine displacement
inline four cylinder (R4/I4) turbodiesel; 1,896 cubic centimetres (115.7 cu in); bore x stroke: 79.5 by 95.5 millimetres (3.13 in × 3.76 in), stroke ratio: 0.83:1 - undersquare/long-stroke, 474.1 cc per cylinder, compression ratio: 22.0:1
cylinder block & crankcase
grey cast iron; five main bearings
cylinder head & valvetrain
cast aluminium alloy; two valves per cylinder, 8 valves total, timing belt-driven single overhead camshaft (SOHC)
aspiration
Garrett turbocharger
fuel system
timing belt-driven Bosch mechanical distributor injection pump, indirect fuel injection into whirl chamber
EWG-rated motive power & torque output, ID code, application
55 kilowatts (75 PS; 74 bhp) — ADE: Volkswagen Industrial Motor (04/94-01/02)
DIN-rated motive power & torque output, ID code
55 kilowatts (75 PS; 74 bhp) @ 4,200 rpm; 150 newton metres (111 ft·lbf) @ 2,000 rpm — AAZ
Re: Timing Belt Disaster....what to do next?
Posted: 27 Jul 2011, 17:21
by California Dreamin
For the most part a snapped cambelt just bends valves and superficially damages the head, sometimes it damages the head to a point that the head needs replacing.
The bottom end usually gets away without damage.
If it were mine I wouldn't be thinking of a new engine quite yet as it's likely to turn out to be not as bad as this. The top end needs removing and properly investigating but I am hopeful this will just be top end.
Therefore, the cheapest option is likely to be a good used cylinder head, new head gasket and cambelt kit.
Martin
Re: Timing Belt Disaster....what to do next?
Posted: 28 Jul 2011, 09:19
by jamesrobertlowe
Thanks for all the advice, guys! Much appreciated.
I guess the first step is for my garage to assess the damage properly - and reckon the biggest factor will be the labour cost to put it right, either way.
Re: Timing Belt Disaster....what to do next?
Posted: 28 Jul 2011, 10:21
by Aidan
take a look on campervanculture I'm sure Jed did a piece on changing his head gasket, it's not that difficult, and much of that job is the same as changing the head, iirc he did change the head
Re: Timing Belt Disaster....what to do next?
Posted: 29 Jul 2011, 09:31
by footstuck
They can bend rods.
Two in my T4, and severly messed up the crowns on those pistons.
All affected parts were changed(ABL engine code).