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spotted a westy joker syncro FS

Posted: 15 Jun 2006, 10:40
by Hacksawbob
Nowt to do with me may have already sold etc.
So as not to bugger it up for someone from here if you are already interested in this AND you are a 80-90 member then PM me and I'll not post further info. If you are interested and you are an 80-90 member and you want first dibs then I'll pass the info on after 24 hours.

VW Westphalia T25 LHD 1990 excellent condition, top of the range version with permanent 4WD for those who want to get off the beaten track, it sleeps 4 people, has a fridge and cooker, mains hookup, gas and water tanks as fitted by the Westphalia factory, it has had a recent new clutch and water pump fitted, good tyres all round (2 of them new) all servicing done. Drives well. taxed to Oct 06 new MOT to June 2007. This is well worth your time to come and look.Please note that I will not accept a 'bankers draft' made out to a third party or any other type of payment except sterling or euros.

asking price is £6000 and its in Slough

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Posted: 16 Jun 2006, 16:44
by sonic23
Hi Bob,
Can you send me the details please (after 24 hours - cause haven't seen this before).

Am working in London next week, so I'm going to look at Syncro Velle down in Hastings on Monday, so might take a look at this one later in the week too.

cheers,
Rich

Posted: 17 Jun 2006, 06:39
by Hacksawbob
pm'd you, that viking you own wouldn't have a reg starting GPN would it?

Posted: 17 Jun 2006, 13:02
by Simon Baxter
Just a quick note to anyone thinking of viewing this van, I've been today and it's not a nice one.
I've bid him £4000 at it, he declined.

MV 2.1l Westy Club Joker Syncro.
NO diff locks.
Dog eared interior.
Roof canvas ripped.
Holes cut just in front of the engine lid where drugs were stored (Hence it being on a Q plate as it was confiscated by customs!)
Seam rash to left hand front arch.
Badly repaired arch to right hand rear.
Van is grotty, if it was tidy enough it would be worth somewhere near the asking price, as is it's a project.
I didn't test drive it as I had made my mind up it wasn't for me, but there are 2 recent tyres on there so chances are the VC has been suffering if not shot.
One thing that did confuse me though...
I was under the impression that Jokers, and Club jokers finished in 1987 to be replaced by Californias and Atlantics, this van is supposedly a 1990, and a quick check of the chassis number confirmed this, but by 1990 Westfalia weren't producing that conversion, or so I though.
Anyone shed any light on that? Or is it a Syncro thing? IS there such a thing as a California/Atlantic syncro?
Don't let the stickers on the sides of the van confuse you either, these aren't original and the side loader was once red as the paint is coming off.

But, a phone call to the DVLA said if you could prove it's age, and you could as you could send off for a heritage letter from VW then you should be able to get it off the Q plate and get an age related plate issued.

Posted: 17 Jun 2006, 13:41
by Russel
If the interiour is timeless brown then it is a pree 87 ineriour.Club joker
was a higher speck than the rest(trim)After 87 all the interiours were grey and they were labled Atlantic's or california's.
This applyed to all westys.
Maybe this is not a factory westy.

Posted: 18 Jun 2006, 19:33
by stuckin88
--It looks rough from the picture--why do people think these things are worth so much?----

Posted: 18 Jun 2006, 21:57
by Mudlark
why do people think these things are worth so much?----

Because there is a market for them and people are paying that and more for good'uns

Beauty in the eye of the beholder; tempered by the size of your wallet, and all that supply and demand stuff :)

Posted: 19 Jun 2006, 08:39
by Ye Olde Syncrospares
their worth so much because their so much better than anything else,ie converted panel van campers with gaping holes cut in the roof,cj.

Posted: 19 Jun 2006, 09:07
by Ade
If the interiour is timeless brown then it is a pree 87 ineriour.Club joker
was a higher speck than the rest(trim)After 87 all the interiours were grey and they were labled Atlantic's or california's.
This applyed to all westys.
Maybe this is not a factory westy.

all interiors 87-91 might have been grey but they were not all Atlantics or Californias ,there areplenty of Joker and Club joker models around with grey interiors, some with all paperwork from new ,including original dealer invoice to prove their factory origins

The stickers on that syncro westy were I believe used for only one year

Posted: 19 Jun 2006, 10:45
by syncro4wd
Hi ,

Westfalia Joker and club jokers were produced till 1990 and from late 86 they had the grey interior. The California and the Atlantic was sold thru the VAG dealer and the westfalia via other sources. I think the California and the Atlantic was only sold in germany and maybe Austria. Other countries still recieved the ( Club ) Joker!
And yes syncro westfalia is more expensive, but you get a decent and rare camper 4wd camper!!

There is also a Atlantic syncro but very, very few produced and they fetch quite high prices in germany . Havent seen these for a while for sale.

Cheers,

Erwin

Posted: 19 Jun 2006, 14:57
by stuckin88
Mudlark wrote:Because there is a market for them and people are paying that and more for good'uns
---well thats the point aint it?--if its a good 'un its worth it--but folk-in this country-think they can get £6k for a restoration project--he turned down £4k-which was generous-comin from a man who knows his stuff--wonder what he will do with it if he cant get the price he wants--how much is it worth assumin frelled VC & possibly engine on last legs?-(answer-whatever anybody wants to pay for it-not permitted- :lol: )--& fancy using a syncro to smuggle drugs--any old camper would have done-- :wink:

Posted: 19 Jun 2006, 15:15
by Mudlark
Well Billy, maybe he just thinks he's going to get lucky; but I bet he didnt bank on Mr Baxter turning up and picking it to pieces. How unlucky is that :lol:

Posted: 19 Jun 2006, 19:43
by Hacksawbob
fancy using a syncro to smuggle drugs-
and a westy at that! possibly stashing things over the petrol tank? theres a million better places to hide things in one of these without resorting to cutting holes.

Posted: 20 Jun 2006, 09:34
by Simon Baxter
I forgot to say, the van in Slough had the Eberspaecher removed also.

He said he wouldn't chip on the price and he would go and find an Australian to sell it to, and if that didn't work he would take it to spain with him as he was going to live here.

Cheers Erwin, nice to have the definative answer.

Posted: 20 Jun 2006, 16:55
by clash460
SYNCROSPARES UK wrote:their worth so much because their so much better than anything else,ie converted panel van campers with gaping holes cut in the roof,cj.

nowt wrong with panel vans with holes in the roof cj
panel vans are much cooler(temp wise) when it is really hot and sunny(ok, not a problem in the north east)
methinks you may have a westy curtain fettish :wink: