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not for us but an interesting concept
Posted: 14 Dec 2010, 08:23
by ricicles
Re: not for us but an interesting concept
Posted: 14 Dec 2010, 09:10
by kevtherev
interesting..
I wonder how durable it would be compared to wood over 25 years?
Re: not for us but an interesting concept
Posted: 14 Dec 2010, 16:34
by ricicles
should be tough as old boots. once the moulds were made you could probably build an interior in a couple of days. i did think it was interesting they said it was a new concept, is it not the same as the westfalia camping box? in that you can turn your work van into a camper.
Re: not for us but an interesting concept
Posted: 17 Dec 2010, 14:09
by StuM
The latest VolksWorld C&B states that T25(3) models are to follow. I think that they look really smart.
Re: not for us but an interesting concept
Posted: 17 Dec 2010, 14:51
by 72BUG
Looks good, but the price would have to be right to tempt people away from wood.
Re: not for us but an interesting concept
Posted: 19 Dec 2010, 12:27
by lloyd
claiming 30% lighter then MDF....
18mm MDF weights 99 lbs
15mm Baltic Birch plywood is 50 lbs = 49% lighter
15mm Volringer plywood is 50 lbs
15mm MDF is 82 lbs
10mm Birch is 35 lbs = 57% lighter
10mm Volringer is 32 lbs
10mm MDF is 55 lbs
6mm Birch is 25 lbs = 55% lighter
6mm Volringer is 22 lbs
I always thought Volringer was way lighter then Birch, but there isn't much difference.
As a joiner doing bespoke work I often use Birch ply ( 7 plys in 9mm thickness, 13 plys in 15mm thickness, 15 ply in 18mm thickness) and love it. The plys are all solid birch with no voids. I often sand and finish the edges and have milled molding from it on occasion. Is used in everything I've added to our camper and will be used for everything when I build our new interior.
Re: not for us but an interesting concept
Posted: 20 Dec 2010, 16:06
by ricicles
the big advantage of using ply is that most folks can have a go at building thier own interior. but for manufacturing i guess once you have the moulds it would be very quick to make the cabinets from grp.
Re: not for us but an interesting concept
Posted: 20 Dec 2010, 17:30
by lloyd
True. Would still need to glass in reinforcement for hinges, latches, drawer slides, attachment brackets, etc. to attach to so not just spraying a jell coat and a few coats of glass. Drawers would need building. Doors need reinforcement for hinges and latches. But I am biased toward wood.
Only interior I know of that is GRP were Dehlers
Re: not for us but an interesting concept
Posted: 20 Dec 2010, 18:42
by ricicles
yeah me to, it has a softness, a kinda homey feel even if it is not soft. and woodgrain is like an open fire, every bit is different, i also like the end grain of a good ply, the colours are great.
Re: not for us but an interesting concept
Posted: 22 Dec 2010, 00:57
by AngeloEvs
It is interesting and can't quite make my mind up as to wether its bloody awful or a clever alternative to conventional materials. I was just looking at it and wondering if a hob burner can be fitted next to the sink or are you supposed to use those portable camping hobs? I suppose if someone has a van that needs to be a camper occaisonally it could be a solution. Reminds of the accessory caravan that my daughter had for her Barbie Doll.....or was it 'Cindy'?
Re: not for us but an interesting concept
Posted: 23 Dec 2010, 00:37
by anaconda
Very nice. Id put the main side unit behind the front seats across the cab so a full sized bed would be available. The u shape seated end is really good, and the storage under the seating would be a must, though some of the under seat space would be lost on a T25.
For us the fixed hob is a poor use of space even on longer holidays. We only make coffee and very occasional quick fried stuff inside. A portable cooker used in an awning or tent is much more convenient (we have a quechua pop up instead of an awning). We were going to get a full side internal fit out until we looked into it in detail. I cant for the life of me understand why they are so popular, except perhaps that they look really good. Instead we got removable ikea red steel units(link below). The a double locker and a set of drawers fit perfectly accross the space behind the seats. They hold loads, are very light, and a fraction of the price. They look neat too.
http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/80100190
http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/40107872