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Hello All
My 1985 1.9 wbx has just failed its MOT on a worn offside front stub axle, apparantly its thread has worn to an extent that the axle nut cannot be fully tightened. My question is will a replacement from any year/model of van be suitable, or if not can others be modified to fit? I may be able to source one from what I believe is a Bluestar.
Thanks in advance.

as long as it didn't have anti lock brakes and your has a MKII calliper, it'll be fine

Thanks for that. One last thing, the spares source is local to me but my van is at the MOT garage 40 miles away so I won't be able to immediately compare the setup, what should I be looking for?

if yours has early calipers

and the blustar has ABS

Ok, thanks.

So if the bluestar has no ABS..... and you have later type callipers, the bluestar stub axle will fit

hang on...
I'm not sure.. if the bluestar has power steering can anyone tell this fella if the steering knuckle is ok to fit

85 model year is a change over year , is it a b reg or c reg?

b reg it should be early caliper type , threads for caliper are in the hub

c reg it can be either late or early


blue star should be later , caliper holes have NO thread in them, threads are in the caliper.

later hubs can have trackrodend hole in 1 of 2 places depending on power steering or not.

abs is an option on later stuff but either will fit

early stuff can have different casts for the track rod end fitment , both should be the same position tho , just visually different.

top/bottom balljoint mountings are the same all years/ models

Thanks for the info all. Billy, am going to check today, if the Bluestar isn't compatable do you have one to sell, or do you know of one?
Cheers
Eamon (Holdsworth interior, Stockport).

yes i do.

worst case - can you get both front from the bluestar with discs/calipers et , fit the lot , upgrade to later brakes, no advantae other than ease

smallwheelsgood wrote:Hello All
My 1985 1.9 wbx has just failed its MOT on a worn offside front stub axle, apparantly its thread has worn to an extent that the axle nut cannot be fully tightened. My question is will a replacement from any year/model of van be suitable, or if not can others be modified to fit? I may be able to source one from what I believe is a Bluestar.
Thanks in advance.

That's a new one.....is that in the tester manual? worn o/s/f stub axle....

Yeah I was thinking that Ian..... how have they determined that he stub axle is "worn" an dhte nut cant be fully tightened?? as the nut SHOULD NOT be fully tightened, a small amount of play is required to prevent the bearings seizing when warm....
The stub axles all have 3 Grooves in them too.. and the outer few threads are ground back into a taper....

Did the take the grease cap off to adjust up the bearing??
and I thought (not sure where I read/heard it mind) under the new system they would have to fail it on excessive play before investigating what was actually wrong as the MOT test has a time sequence/limit on it...... ie not much chance of investigating faults and fixing them while performing the MOT...

toomanytoys wrote:Yeah I was thinking that Ian..... how have they determined that he stub axle is "worn" an dhte nut cant be fully tightened?? as the nut SHOULD NOT be fully tightened, a small amount of play is required to prevent the bearings seizing when warm....
The stub axles all have 3 Grooves in them too.. and the outer few threads are ground back into a taper....

Did the take the grease cap off to adjust up the bearing??
and I thought (not sure where I read/heard it mind) under the new system they would have to fail it on excessive play before investigating what was actually wrong as the MOT test has a time sequence/limit on it...... ie not much chance of investigating faults and fixing them while performing the MOT...

You shouldn't be tighten or loosen anything during a test......
Would like to see the item fail number on the VT30..
IAN

As far as I am aware the fail was due to (amongst other things) the wheel bearing being worn. The problem with the stub thread has,I assume,arose following the bearings replacement. Anyway, I'm going to the garage tomorrow to get the full story. The reason I chose to use this particular test station rather than a local one to myself is that it had issued the previous two tickets, and has carried out various repairs to the van in the past, all for the previous owner.Given that the van has only covered around 300 miles since it's last test, and has been garaged since then, I'm curious as to how it now needs around £200.00 worth of welding, plus the above repair. Just out of interest, what would be the best course of action for me to take if I feel that things may not be as they should be?

Thanks

fullsunian wrote:

toomanytoys wrote:Yeah I was thinking that Ian..... how have they determined that he stub axle is "worn" an dhte nut cant be fully tightened?? as the nut SHOULD NOT be fully tightened, a small amount of play is required to prevent the bearings seizing when warm....
The stub axles all have 3 Grooves in them too.. and the outer few threads are ground back into a taper....

Did the take the grease cap off to adjust up the bearing??
and I thought (not sure where I read/heard it mind) under the new system they would have to fail it on excessive play before investigating what was actually wrong as the MOT test has a time sequence/limit on it...... ie not much chance of investigating faults and fixing them while performing the MOT...

You shouldn't be tighten or loosen anything during a test......
Would like to see the item fail number on the VT30..
IAN

Not adjusting/repairing, during the test.. thats the point I was tyring to make.. (but not very clearly.. )


Rust doesnt sleep and has nowt to do with miles covered.. but a year sitting........

smallwheelsgood wrote:As far as I am aware the fail was due to (amongst other things) the wheel bearing being worn. The problem with the stub thread has,I assume,arose following the bearings replacement. Anyway, I'm going to the garage tomorrow to get the full story. The reason I chose to use this particular test station rather than a local one to myself is that it had issued the previous two tickets, and has carried out various repairs to the van in the past, all for the previous owner.Given that the van has only covered around 300 miles since it's last test, and has been garaged since then, I'm curious as to how it now needs around £200.00 worth of welding, plus the above repair. Just out of interest, what would be the best course of action for me to take if I feel that things may not be as they should be?

Thanks

Well if you wanted to appeal then you have to do that before any work is carried out, so you maybe to late now...
Normally if you ask the said test station for a VT17 appeal form, that is enough to start them flapping..
IAN