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cold start on a 1.6td HELP

Posted: 20 Oct 2010, 18:27
by budice83
with the winter coming in so fast
1.6td jx engine
i hav been meaning to got my cold start sorted out but not to sure how it works and the wire which go to the pump has been cut off if anyone got some info or if you can point me in the right way about this on how its ment to work and where i can get the ports for this ?

Re: cold start on a 1.6td HELP

Posted: 20 Oct 2010, 19:55
by T-3PO
Budice, from my understanding there's no wire (implying it's electrical) it's a cable that runs from the lever to the fuel pump. I guess you first point would be to check if it's connected? ... someone pulls out the lever while someone else checks for movement on the pump? After that ... hhmmm, service, glow plugs or even pump timing?

Re: cold start on a 1.6td HELP

Posted: 20 Oct 2010, 20:30
by peasant
You could just block the lever at the pump in the fully engaged postion ...leave the lever pulled all the time so to speak. Quite a few people on german forums do this until they get round to fixing the wire pulley thingy. The "cold start" feature (slightly earlier injection) stops to work above 2000 rpm (or so) anyway

Re: cold start on a 1.6td HELP

Posted: 20 Oct 2010, 21:25
by budice83
thanks for getting back to me about this so soon

when i put wire i ment cable sorry about that lol anyway i now its not wire up coz i can see where they hav cut it but that what i'm trying to work out how it pull it on and off is it like a old car were you pull it on or is it like a auto one which runns of the coolent temp ?

Re: cold start on a 1.6td HELP

Posted: 20 Oct 2010, 22:46
by HarryMann
The former, you pull the lever to put it on. Then you forget it until you remember it 10 miles later :wink: but it doesn't matter too much, unlike a choke.

Re: cold start on a 1.6td HELP

Posted: 21 Oct 2010, 17:31
by budice83
hi everyone had a look once more today at it it was pull right back to the cam belt not on it but you now what i mean i hope lol anyway push it forward so it was looking at the gearboxs and then jump in and wait for the glow plugs and she fire up 1st time and there was not white smoke for the 1st time oh the joy of it was just to much lol then when i came out from work today she just fired up 1st time once more which was nice lol anyway when i was on the road she did feel a little bit slower so im thinking i'm going to fit a cable to her but the nexts thing is where do i get a cable that long for it and where are they fitted on the dash ?

Re: cold start on a 1.6td HELP

Posted: 21 Oct 2010, 18:27
by HarryMann
hi everyone had a look once more today at it it was pull right back to the cam belt not on it but you now what i mean

I don't know what you mean by that... cam belt not on it?

Any chance you could use a few sentences to split up that diatribe a bit, so others can read it a bit easier, this is a forum with a full keyboard & text editor, not a mobile phone.

Cheers

PS. The lever is lower left of steering column AFAIK, it pulls out from the bottom of the fascia, like a flap IIRC

Re: cold start on a 1.6td HELP

Posted: 22 Oct 2010, 01:25
by budice83
Wow chillout man :run

I was just meaning which way the rod on the Diesel pump was faceing.
So the front of the engine is where the cambelt is and the rear of the engine is where the flywheel meets the gearbox's
Hope this helps you Understand. :pimp

So i hav moved the choke and its fires up everytime :ok



diatribe.
Listening to a lengthy diatribe may seem like a waste of time, an attitude for which there is some etymological justification.

Good night and God Blass
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Re: cold start on a 1.6td HELP

Posted: 22 Oct 2010, 13:18
by HarryMann
ha!well you did ask if therd been just one indication of were a sentence end and another start i probably wouldnt of said but a line has to be drawn somewhere, even a linebreak :wink:

251 711 501E Cold-start cable (late type, for dash flap lever, not knob type)

That'll probably be a lot of dosh, who knows, £50, VW commercial parts will tell you with a phone call

Or call SyncrosparesUK, Devon, who may well have a 2nd hand one... maybe Syncro-Nutz, Shotts, will too.

Syncrospares (possibly moved from that address, so phoneor email)
Unit 1, Lime Fields South
Pathfields Industrial Estate
South Molton
North Devon, EX36 3LH

07808 200623
info@excelerate-southwest.co.uk

Re: cold start on a 1.6td HELP

Posted: 25 Oct 2010, 19:03
by Smudger38
Kafer & Co in Germany do a Cold Start cable at €42.00 plus p&p :D

http://www.kaefer-co.de/index.php?view= ... ge&id=3762" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: cold start on a 1.6td HELP

Posted: 26 Oct 2010, 17:59
by budice83
hav you got one from there ?
and i still can not work out where its placed on the dash :run

Re: cold start on a 1.6td HELP

Posted: 26 Oct 2010, 18:59
by T-3PO
There's an extra dash piece that screws under the main dash board, to the left of the steering wheel (if it's a RHD) There's a LHD version on http://www.ebay.de" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; if you search for Chokezughalter.