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LHD-RHD LAMPS

Posted: 26 Sep 2010, 12:46
by DUMBODOGGY
Hi Guys, I hope somebody may be able to answer a simple but could also be a stoopid question. I have recently bought a LHD camper and am about to send off the paperwork to have her registered in the UK. I know that I will need to change over the headlamps to RHD. I suddenly thought to myself, as the are round and all that, can I just turn them upside down?

With the rears, I obviously need a fog lamp on the offside and mine is on the nearside. I have taken the lens covers off and it looks like I can just buy a new offside lens with a foglamp, does anyone know if the wiring is there for the foglamp already or do I need to wire one up??

Cheers!!

Dave

Re: LHD-RHD LAMPS

Posted: 26 Sep 2010, 12:49
by R0B
just but two rhd round ones they are not terribly expensive.
http://www.justkampers.com/shop/type_25 ... headlights

Re: LHD-RHD LAMPS

Posted: 26 Sep 2010, 12:51
by horns
You don't need to change the lights - you can just put stickers or tape on them to 'bend' the beams for UK use. But no, you can't just invert them! You don't need a new lens for the fog light either - there should be room for a bulb in there, you just need to rig up something at the back to make the connection. The wiring should already be present. You'll also need a light in the dash to indicate that the foglight is on - the stock switch has one built in.

Re: LHD-RHD LAMPS

Posted: 26 Sep 2010, 13:02
by DUMBODOGGY
Oh great, cheers for that, I thought by putting RHD stickers on the lenses was not passable as permanent. Do they ask for proof that this has been done??

I'll have a butchers at the rear lamp whn I get home too. She sailed through a UK mot and I was just advised on the lamps!

Re: LHD-RHD LAMPS

Posted: 26 Sep 2010, 13:13
by horns
Mine was UK registered with LHD lamps, and still has them after several years in the country...

Re: LHD-RHD LAMPS

Posted: 26 Sep 2010, 13:19
by DUMBODOGGY
sod it then! if I can get away with it I will leave them on, will be using it in europe ayways!

Re: LHD-RHD LAMPS

Posted: 26 Sep 2010, 13:34
by peasant
Be advised though that should you ever travel in your van on a dark, rainy night on an unlit country road (in the UK) that you will see feck all with your dipped LHD lights ...a row of candles on the bumper would probably do a better job.

Headlamps was the first thing I changed on mine, but that's a daily driver.

Re: LHD-RHD LAMPS

Posted: 26 Sep 2010, 15:17
by Red Westie
You don't need new headlamps for the MOT: see..
Proper conversion stickers are best and are not that expensive (bottom of the page: round L/H/D to R/H/D) £3.00 plus postage.

http://www.brickwerks.co.uk/shop?page=s ... d=headlamp

The O/S/R lamp holder will need modifying to accomodate an extra bulb for the foglamp, some just solder a feed directly to the bulb others drill and fabricate a sprung connector for the bulb (much better but you need to be handy)

Martin

Re: LHD-RHD LAMPS

Posted: 26 Sep 2010, 19:46
by DUMBODOGGY
Cheers guys, we won't use her really at night, the stickers are the future! Ta all

Re: LHD-RHD LAMPS

Posted: 31 Mar 2011, 14:51
by naskeet
If one owns a British or European registered, North American specification vehicle, one must replace the original SAE/DOT-standard headlamps, with lamps conforming to the European ECE-standard; of RHD or LHD dipping pattern, as appropriate. This might not be picked-up by an MOT inspector, but it is part of the British road-vehicle lighting regulations; especially for vehicles first used, after 31st March 1986.

The Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations 1989, Statutory Instrument 1989, No. 1796.

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si1989/Uksi_19891796_en_1.htm

If one does much night driving, in both Great Britain and Europe, it might be beneficial to have both RHD and LHD headlamps, which can be swopped over before crossing the English Channel; ensuring consistent substitution of left-hand side (i.e. nearside) & right-hand side (i.e. offside - driver's side in RHD vehicles) lamp units, to maintain correct headlamp alignment.

Otherwise, one will need to fit supplementary beam converters or at the very least, mask-off the trapezoidal refractive area of the lens, using opaque, self-adhesive tape, such as PVC, electrical insulating tape. Failure to do either of these, might possibly result in a court summons or an on-the-spot fine! In countries with drakonian laws, they might even impound your vehicle!!!

Re: LHD-RHD LAMPS

Posted: 01 Apr 2011, 09:49
by Mash
naskeet wrote:If one does much night driving, in both Great Britain and Europe, it might be beneficial to have both RHD and LHD headlamps, which can be swopped over before crossing the English Channel;


It's a good idea, we've got both sets of lights and just swap them over when waiting for the ferry, 5 minute job. Might take up some room but for the safety benefits I'd rather get the best possible beam when driving on unfamiliar roads.

Re: LHD-RHD LAMPS

Posted: 01 Apr 2011, 11:29
by Cruz
As your lights are round and are ten a penny common why not just source a good pair of RHD H4 lamps and change them??

Cheaper than winching the van out of a ditch

Re: LHD-RHD LAMPS

Posted: 01 Apr 2011, 12:36
by Ralf85
horns wrote:You don't need to change the lights - you can just put stickers or tape on them to 'bend' the beams for UK use. But no, you can't just invert them! You don't need a new lens for the fog light either - there should be room for a bulb in there, you just need to rig up something at the back to make the connection. The wiring should already be present. You'll also need a light in the dash to indicate that the foglight is on - the stock switch has one built in.

I agree with him!!! That's what I did four years ago.

Patrick