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Noisy relay
Posted: 19 May 2010, 07:31
by Essex Nige
Have just fitted a duel charge system and relay as per the wiki diagram but i have a noisy relay, when i say noisy it buzz's when you accelerate then stops at about 40 then as you slow down it starts again until the engine is on tickover so the buzz relates to the engine speed/revs...
any ideas

Re: Noisy relay
Posted: 19 May 2010, 08:11
by kevtherev
what did you connect the trigger wire to?
Re: Noisy relay
Posted: 19 May 2010, 08:23
by Essex Nige
To the little wire coming out of the altinator, thats if you mean the wire to #86 on the relay
Re: Noisy relay
Posted: 19 May 2010, 08:42
by kevtherev
Two possible reasons I can think of then.
your Alternator regulator/brush pack is possibly worn out or faulty.
or the relay is the issue.
Someone may have an alternative view
I think it's the first.
can you get hold of another unit?
Re: Noisy relay
Posted: 19 May 2010, 08:48
by Essex Nige
kevtherev wrote:Two possible reasons I can think of then.
your Alternator regulator/brush pack is possibly worn out or faulty.
or the relay is the issue.
Someone may have an alternative view
I think it's the first.
can you get hold of another unit?
I'll try swapping the relay first, have tested the output of the altinator and its 13.8v
Re: Noisy relay
Posted: 19 May 2010, 08:51
by kevtherev
not good at 13.8.. 14.2 would be better.
I changed my brush pack recently and we chuck 14.2v at the battery now.
It was at 13.5 before
Re: Noisy relay
Posted: 19 May 2010, 08:57
by Essex Nige
kevtherev wrote:not good at 13.8.. 14.2 would be better.
I changed my brush pack recently and we chuck 14.2v at the battery now.
It was at 13.5 before
is this easy to change?
Re: Noisy relay
Posted: 19 May 2010, 09:03
by kevtherev
Essex Nige wrote:kevtherev wrote:not good at 13.8.. 14.2 would be better.
I changed my brush pack recently and we chuck 14.2v at the battery now.
It was at 13.5 before
is this easy to change?
located on the back of the alt, two small screws and the assembly pulls out.
Re: Noisy relay
Posted: 19 May 2010, 09:07
by Essex Nige
Nice
And where did you get the brush pack from?
Re: Noisy relay
Posted: 19 May 2010, 09:12
by kevtherev
ah that is a good question...
I had a source here in the midlands but two duff units has put me off.
They cost around a tenner and no more than fifteen quid.
An alternator refurb engineers could help, or maybe someone on here could point you (and me!) to a reputable source.
Re: Noisy relay
Posted: 19 May 2010, 16:21
by Essex Nige
kevtherev wrote:what did you connect the trigger wire to?
I wonder if i have the right wire? there is the big red wire, and 2 not 1 smaller wire

Re: Noisy relay
Posted: 20 May 2010, 08:51
by Red Westie
Kev..I was responsible for the original post recommending that supplier for bush packs.
Mine has been fitted for nearly two years now without any problems. (mine wiring is completely original and unmolested)
I know you say you have had two duff ones but how sure are you of your diagnosis....you have to admit that there is a lot going on with your wiring and that could have been the reason for the failures or faults....just saying.
Martin
Re: Noisy relay
Posted: 20 May 2010, 09:51
by Cruz
kevtherev wrote:not good at 13.8.. 14.2 would be better.
Mine only does 13.8. Had a new regulator fitted last year when in N. Ireland
Re: Noisy relay
Posted: 20 May 2010, 14:16
by Red Westie
VW/Bosch voltage output tollerance: 13.9 to 14.2 volts. Most OEM regulators were made by Beru.
Martin
Re: Noisy relay
Posted: 20 May 2010, 14:16
by kevtherev
Red Westie wrote:.you have to admit that there is a lot going on with your wiring and that could have been the reason for the failures or faults....just saying.
Martin
standard wiring Martin
and the other one failed on a different van.