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possible head gasket or worse????
Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 07:58
by jimpainter
Right im getting fed up with this bloody van now its getting right on my breasticles, i havent even driven it yet and had it over 12 months.
Got a starter motor sorted put it on and then started to bleed the cooling system. I had got about 7 litres of antifreeze in as per the instructions on this very forum, and the engine was getting warm. Probably been running about 4 minutes or so. I went to the front of the van to take the bleed screw out of the rad and when i got back to the rear of the van there was a coolant and steam pissing out of the cap on the reservoir. not the overflow tank. Is it a head gasket problem or maybe something worse. Oil looks ok and not milky and couldnt see oil in water although i filled it up again and tried it and there was some air bubbles coming up when i revved it a bit, but i wasnt sure if it was just air in the system, but it did pressurize again.
sorry engine is a 1.9d aef engine
Jim
Re: possible head gasket or worse????
Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 08:29
by jason k
go and get the coolant sniffed at a garage, it identifies if any combustion gas is in the water.
at least that way you will know if its the gasket or not.....
Re: possible head gasket or worse????
Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 08:34
by kevtherev
sounds more like the tank cap is shagged to me
Re: possible head gasket or worse????
Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 08:37
by clartsonly
you are not supposed to bleed the water system with the tank cap on. make sure you leave it off whilst you are bleeding the system otherwise there is nowhere for the pressure to go and you will damage the cap, split the expansion tank or worse

Re: possible head gasket or worse????
Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 11:53
by jimpainter
I was bleeding the system as per the guide by baxter on the brickyard. That said to put coolant in until no more will go in, rev it so the fluid level drops and fill to the top and then put cap on and go to the front of the van and undo bleed screw on the rad. And repeat. Thats just the basic way it describes. Obviously if you dont put the cap back on when the engine has been revved the coolant washes back and out the top.
Meant to say the engine was also hunting and probably only a couple oh hundred rpm max but as it went up the coolant would come out of the cap and when it dropped off it would stop and there would be steam and would just keep going like that. So i assumed that maybe one or two cylinders are leaking gases into cooling system and on a compression stroke it is forcing into the cooling system which would account for the coolant pulsing out of the cap overflow and not a constant trickle.
Ta
Re: possible head gasket or worse????
Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 12:50
by clartsonly
try to bleed the system again, a head gasket replacement in an old camper is likely to open untold issues , snapped header bolts etc... other seized parts damaged parts when removing the engine.
Re: possible head gasket or worse????
Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 12:54
by jimpainter
I havent long put the engine in, it was supposed to be a good runner. It was out of a polo 1.9d which had a rear end shunt. All manifold bolts etc were copper greased and all other bits should be ok. Only one thing would be the head bolts but as they constantly have oil circulating around them i think they may be ok.....I hope. I have removed the thermostat and checked its opening and it is. The coolant did smell a bit strange like exhaust gases and the header tank had air bubbles coming from the top hose from the head to header tank.
Re: possible head gasket or worse????
Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 12:57
by kevtherev
The coolant did smell a bit strange like exhaust gases
Oh dear ...cracked head? quite common in Dervs I'm told.
Re: possible head gasket or worse????
Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 13:30
by jimpainter
Thats what i thought. Hoping worse case scenrio though is possibly head gasket gone. Could still put exhaust gases into the coolant i think. Might just bite the bullet and strip it down tonight.
Re: possible head gasket or worse????
Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 13:37
by silverbullet
jimpainter wrote:Thats what i thought. Hoping worse case scenrio though is possibly head gasket gone. Could still put exhaust gases into the coolant i think. Might just bite the bullet and strip it down tonight.
If you had snot production at the oil filler or crankcase breather, then maybe head gasket, but...diesel and smelly bubbles in the expansion tank may well = cracked head, between valves. It'll be hairline or obvious if worse than that. It's how my '85/'90 VM diesel strange rover finally betrayed me

Re: possible head gasket or worse????
Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 16:00
by jimpainter
Its not looking good really is it. Oh well tools at the ready i will post up when i find anything.
Thanks for the help.

Re: possible head gasket or worse????
Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 16:02
by kevtherev
jimpainter wrote: Oh well tools at the ready i will post up when i find anything.
Thanks for the help.

thats the spirit

Re: possible head gasket or worse????
Posted: 31 Jan 2010, 11:43
by jimpainter
Re: possible head gasket or worse????
Posted: 31 Jan 2010, 15:31
by silverbullet
Ehhhhh? Is that even possible?

Re: possible head gasket or worse????
Posted: 31 Jan 2010, 18:54
by jimpainter
Yeah the polo pump runs the opposite direction to the van one. I have routed the belt the wrong way round the pump pulley.