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				Anyone know the weight of a Subaru engine?
				Posted: 11 Apr 2006, 22:34
				by nickstruck
				I'm thinking about putting a 2.2 or 2.5 Subaru engine into my van but half the battle with these vans to me is keeping the weight down. Does anyone know how much a 2.2 or 2.5 Subaru engine weighs?
Thanks
Nick
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: 11 Apr 2006, 22:54
				by Diamond Hell
				Less than a 1.8GTI or 1.6TD motor, but it's far more bstard awkward to pick the damned thing up!
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: 16 Apr 2006, 22:22
				by HarryMann
				Same as a WBX within 20 or so pounds... but bear in mind all the crap thats thrown away when you put one in...
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: 20 Apr 2006, 11:46
				by klatuu
				I read somewhere it was 35 kilos heavier than the VW engine
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: 20 Apr 2006, 12:04
				by HarryMann
				280lb. if i remember right,  full of oil and water about 325, thats non-turbo. Well 325 is what mine was. thats with a/c, p/s, and the intake. I hope that helped, see i needed that info too, cuz, i'm putting my subi motor in a 1970 air cooled bay window. and the motor i pulled out of it was about 265 full of oil. so my little van will be a little heavier in the tail
As I said above, barely 20 lbs pounds heavier than a WBX, but it really doesn't matter too much, c.f. a few gallons of fuel
 
			
					
				
				Posted: 20 Apr 2006, 20:48
				by nickstruck
				Wow thats a little heavier than I was expecting.
From the information which is on the net... which puts a Rover V8 at 318 lbs and an Aircooled Bug engine at 200 lbs.. oh and an Audi 1500 engine (similar to Golf GTi engine?) at 240lbs..
http://www.team.net/sol/tech/engine.html
Nick
 
			
					
				
				Posted: 20 Apr 2006, 20:58
				by HarryMann
				Why is it such a battle keeping the weight down? They're from 1800 Kg upwards anyway, do you really think a few pounds here and there matters much... what you going to be carrying around in it - gold bullion??
Those weight figures you have could relate to almost anything anyway, as far as ancillary fitments - couldn't they? Did they come saying exactly what they related to... EXACTLY?
Subaru 1.8L ('81-'86) 	188
Subaru 1.8L OHC 	200
Subaru 2.2L ('90-'96)	260 
Subaru 2.2L Turbo 	265 
Subaru 2.5L 	270 
Subaru EJ22 aero-engine:
EJ-22 Long Block = 190 lbs
Total Engine Package = 245 lbs
Includes: Intake Manifold, Throttle Body, MAF, Swirl Pot, Oil Pan (w/oil), Alternator, Motor Mount, Dual Fuel Pumps, Ignition Coil (w/Spark Plug Wires), Igniter, Starter, Air Bypass Valve, Prop Hub, Crankshaft Adapter, Flywheel, & Short Exhaust System (no muffler)
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: 20 Apr 2006, 21:17
				by nickstruck
				"Those weight figures you have could relate to almost anything anyway, as far as ancillary fitments - couldn't they? Did they come saying exactly what they related to... EXACTLY?"
Good point well made.. no info on if thats dry weight, with or without ancilleries. Think I need to buy some scales  
 
 
Thanks for the info... very helpful.
The reason behind the weight-less (!) compulsiveness is just trying to help the van remain as light as possible. More weight is more to accelerate... more to stop... more to take around corners. When it comes to weight of vans... I'm with Colin Chapman  
 
 
Nick
 
			
					
				
				Posted: 20 Apr 2006, 23:57
				by HarryMann
				So sell it and buy something more flimsy  

 
			
					
				
				Posted: 18 May 2006, 20:54
				by RJES
				Spent ages searching my computer fir this engine weights info. I knew I had it somewhere - turneed out to be on paper in a ring binder. No wonder I couldn't find it on the computer!
Subaru 'H6' 3 litre (2003 - i.e. plastic inlet manifold, VVT, etc) 170 kg 
EJ18 SOHC 118 kg
EJ20 DOHC 130 kg
EJ20 DOHC Turbo 147 kg
EJ22 SOHC 121 kg
Hope that's some use. It's all from technical articles published by the Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) in the USA, or new engine press releases in automotive engineering magazines.
Regards,
Richard Jones,
R J Engineered Solutions,
Tel. 07761 788669
e-mail: 
rjones@rjes.com
www.rjes.com 
			
					
				
				Posted: 19 May 2006, 08:28
				by bigbluebus
				trust me, you won't be thinking about the weight of the engine when in it's in
You'll be far too busy screaming yeeeeeeeeehaaaaaa everytime you start it up  

 
			
					
				
				Posted: 19 May 2006, 09:03
				by Diamond Hell
				I am exercising my vocal chords in antici.......
pation.
 

 
			
					
				
				Posted: 04 Jun 2006, 10:20
				by camper
				I have no knowledge of these engines.Are some Aircooled noticed some think about aero engine.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: 04 Jun 2006, 11:31
				by HarryMann
				No, no all watercooled
Many aero engines are liquid cooled, since early aviation days... think the EJ25 is the one chosen for PFA/self build aircraft, but with substrantial modifications.