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scirocco 5th gear jumper
Posted: 26 Oct 2009, 17:41
by kevtherev
Our lasses scirocco jumps outa fifth at 80
Fifth has a whine too.
what causes that?
kev
Re: sirocco 5th gear jumper
Posted: 26 Oct 2009, 20:55
by boatdog
I Take it you were on a private road then? lol
Re: sirocco 5th gear jumper
Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 08:36
by Aidan
probably same as if it were one of ours, knackered pinion bearing and/or mainshaft bearing, and worn synchroniser, age, wear, lack of oil changes, unless it's a new scirrocco then it's vw warranty problem
Re: sirocco 5th gear jumper
Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 13:29
by kevtherev
Aidan wrote:probably same as if it were one of ours, knackered pinion bearing and/or mainshaft bearing, and worn synchroniser, age, wear, lack of oil changes, unless it's a new scirrocco then it's vw warranty problem
oh yeah I forgot they used the name again
OK Aiden
second hand box then
would that be a fairly generic box on a 1.8i VW transverse?
Re: sirocco 5th gear jumper
Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 16:29
by sciroccotune
Basically you will be able to use most 'rod change' boxes from late '70s mk1 golf up to about 95 some mk3 golf’s- but you will want to match the ratios.
It’s been ages since I have done this (since I built my 16v Scirocco infact) but I believe that you will be best with a box from and injected 8v including the golf mk2 gti. The mk2 golf 16v box is an option with slightly longer 5th i think but there is a change of the input shaft being a larger number of splines.
Anyway stay away from the Scirocco GTII boxes as they are short ratio and it will rev like a bugger at motorway speed. and don’t go for a box from a 1.6 scirocco otherwise known as the 4+E box as these are for economy and don’t really suit the injected car (better on a 8v than 16v however but will make both seem slow to rev and cripple a 16v i know this from experience

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Any questions give me a PM

Re: sirocco 5th gear jumper
Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 16:32
by kevtherev
thanks a bunch pal... I will

Re: sirocco 5th gear jumper
Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 16:34
by gti mad man
also change the gearbox oil!
Re: sirocco 5th gear jumper
Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 17:11
by Ian Hulley
sciroccotune wrote: Anyway stay away from the Scirocco GTII boxes as they are short ratio and it will rev like a bugger at motorway speed.
That's a shame, I have one here as a spare.

Re: sirocco 5th gear jumper
Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 17:16
by sciroccotune
Ian Hulley wrote:sciroccotune wrote: Anyway stay away from the Scirocco GTII boxes as they are short ratio and it will rev like a bugger at motorway speed.
That's a shame, I have one here as a spare.

Dont get me wrong they are a good box for quick runs and really make the car feel faster/revier but IIRC they are like 4k at 70 which is a bit annoying on a run.
Re: sirocco 5th gear jumper
Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 17:17
by kevtherev
kin bummer!
Re: scirocco 5th gear jumper
Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 18:54
by ghost123uk
I have to say that our GTII is sweet enough on the motorway at legal(ish) speeds.
I used to have a gorgeous GTX too [sob] [sob] and whilst it was a bit longer in the leg, it was not enough difference to put me off a GTII box if one was readily available at the right price.
Just my humble opinion of course and not necessarily the views of others (as always

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Re: scirocco 5th gear jumper
Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 21:01
by gti mad man
i could get the ratio graphs out but virtualy all boxes have the same 1st 2nd 3rd 4th mainly the 5ths that have diferent ratio my mk1 used to rev like hell with my 16v motor on the motorway but now have a 4+e yummy gti lower ratios longer 5th simples
Re: scirocco 5th gear jumper
Posted: 28 Oct 2009, 10:17
by Ian Hulley
Just tested our Scala injection on Monday, straight through

So in the interests of keeping the car going and saving The Bus a bit I've come to work in it today

I LOVE Sciroccos ... it makes all the right noises

and a gentle touch on the GO pedal left an Audi rep mobile
Ian
Re: scirocco 5th gear jumper
Posted: 28 Oct 2009, 12:51
by Rincewind
i have a rocco box at the end of my garden you can have if you want it.
its off my GtII 93, though a close ratio box. nothing wrong with it, i just swapped it for a longer ratio one.
and because i'm showing off

Re: scirocco 5th gear jumper
Posted: 28 Oct 2009, 12:53
by ghost123uk
Gill and I love them too
We have a nice K plate GTII ( on a carb though )
Did I mention I used to have a gorgeous black GTX [sob] [sob]
On the Scirocco forum we often muse over what other car you could buy, for a similar price, that can offer comparable ->
Performance
Reliability
Driver satisfaction
Handling
Looks
Ease of getting spares
And you can get a really nice one for less that £1000 ( I know because I sold a gorgeous GTX
(did I mention that before) for £800

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The only car I can think of in the same light might be an early Opal Manta...
I had my "Sky Rocket" for almost exactly 10 years and it never ever broke down and the only parts I changed on it were normal service items, the biggest of which was a clutch (diy)
Tip = Stick to genuine German exhaust systems
The cheaper ones sound shyte and wreck performance.
The "big bore" ones spoil the torque at lower RPM
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