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Fuel type
Posted: 13 Oct 2009, 14:37
by very_bland
Hello all, I'm a virgin poster here, but will become more of a regular if I eventually manage to get a T25.
Just a couple of queries about the differences between petrol, diesel, TD.
What I've been told is:
Petrol- Least economical, least powerful, least reliable.
Diesel- More economical more powerful, more reliable.
TD- same as above but much more powerful.
Basically, how accurate is this breakdown?
When something mechanical goes wrong, as long as it can be fixed with basic tools, I have the time, patience and determination to fix it (previously owned a Triumph Acclaim, so...

). If however it needs a professional with specific tools etc I rarely have the funds to do so.
Ideally, due to my wafer thin wallet but love to travel about, best mpg is pretty important.
What's gonna be best for me.
Cheers

Re: Fuel type
Posted: 13 Oct 2009, 14:49
by dugcati
not quite.....
1.6 diesel is as powerful as a flyfart in a paperbag -good on fuel though
1.6 turbo diesl is a bit better on the power but not as good on the juice
1.9 diesel (AAZ engines etc) far better on power and good on fuel bit these are transplant engines from Golf's/Passats etc
All Aircooled are pants on power and pants on fuel but they sound reet good
1.9 petrol - aint too bad and aint too bad on fuel - better than Aircooled not as good as diesel
2.1 petrol - now your talking - nice and smooth and quite powerful but still juicey
Many people go for LPG conversion as it makes the running costs more tolerable (still pants on power and MPG's though)
The ting to remember is they are called awedge/brick for reason - and they weigh nigh on 2 tons so even the best of them aint going to be fantastic on any fuel type
Welcome to the gang btw!!
Doug
Re: Fuel type
Posted: 13 Oct 2009, 15:10
by very_bland
Grand, cheers for that Doug!
And how much would a LPG conversion cost, if I did it myself? (and is this possible with minimal tool kit; socket set, spanners, screwdrivers, hammers

) About £500?
Re: Fuel type
Posted: 13 Oct 2009, 15:13
by jamesc76
You cant do it yourself on lpg conversion's ,well you cant if you want insurance!!!! All fitted and plumbed up etc is about £1000, with the all important certificate to say it was fitted correctly!
Re: Fuel type
Posted: 13 Oct 2009, 15:22
by very_bland

ha ha cheers Jamesc76, I assumed as there were DIY conversion kits on the market, that it was a viable option. Clearly I was wrong!
Just noticed that speed vs mpg on all engines has already been covered only a few topics down. Sorry bout that.
Re: Fuel type
Posted: 13 Oct 2009, 15:26
by Gadders
dugcati wrote:
1.9 petrol - aint too bad on fuel -
If only...
Sorry Doug couldn't help meself...
Re: Fuel type
Posted: 13 Oct 2009, 15:38
by Red Westie
What I've been told is:
Petrol- Least economical, more powerful, least reliable.
Diesel- More economical less powerful, more reliable.
TD- same as above but more power (still not as powerful as a petrol)
Basically, how accurate is this breakdown? accurate.
Nicest most economical and most powerful one to drive would be a 2.1 petrol (MV) on LPG (we are talking common standard engines as there are SA and other options)
Best aftermarket option possibly a 1.9TD? more power, good fuel economy.
And then there is always subaru route.
Martin
Re: Fuel type
Posted: 13 Oct 2009, 15:59
by dugcati
Gadders wrote:dugcati wrote:
1.9 petrol - aint too bad on fuel -
If only...
Sorry Doug couldn't help meself...
hey... you dont have an aircold!
Re: Fuel type
Posted: 13 Oct 2009, 16:57
by helga592
After fitting LPG to are van my self 2years ago i havent had a problem with insurance (thats from one of the big boys and a vw specialist). We had a local lpg guy do the engeners report £50 (he offered me a part-time job on the strenth of the job i had done), And she flys though the MOT ever year around 30mpg on a run France at the start of the year and scotland recently. Your Holliday starts as soon as you stare your trip & she is my daily drive
Re: Fuel type
Posted: 13 Oct 2009, 23:15
by CovKid
Agree, you can fit LPG yourself providing you do it by the book and to COP2 and get it tested and inspected by a pro.
If you don't know what COP2 is, then don't even attempt it.

Re: Fuel type
Posted: 14 Oct 2009, 06:35
by very_bland
Well cheers to you all for helping out a stranger, 'tis greatly appreciated
Hopefully I'll be back soon with my new Van (
and "how do I fix this?" questions
Think I shall probably go for the desperately underpowered but economical 1.6 diesel or TD... We shall see.
Ta.
Names Billy by-the-way.
(I'll continue browsing till I get my van, so if you see anything, preferably tin-top panel, give us a bell

)
Re: Fuel type
Posted: 14 Oct 2009, 06:57
by eatcustard
Makes no odds on what engine you have.
Its the bodywork thats most important.
followed by a 2.1i with LPG
also put in where you are from
Re: Fuel type
Posted: 14 Oct 2009, 09:48
by dannyg1985
Gadders wrote:dugcati wrote:
1.9 petrol - aint too bad on fuel -
If only...
Sorry Doug couldn't help meself...

^^^ agreed

^^^
mine drinks more then me
Re: Fuel type
Posted: 14 Oct 2009, 20:02
by very_bland
Back again... didn't take long did it.
1.9 AAZ vs 1.9 watercooled (adding LPG)
Go for the later yeah?
Re: Fuel type
Posted: 15 Oct 2009, 13:29
by dugcati
need to watch out for snapping head stud syndrome on the watercooled petrol's -if the engine has been a while with no/little antifreeze these are pronse th rotting and eventualy breaking... big job to rectify if/when it happens
