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rustoleum and spray paint
Posted: 11 Aug 2009, 10:47
by eatcustard
Could I use rustoleum for now and in the future get a pro paint job done, or will they react with each other?
Re: rustoleum and spray paint
Posted: 11 Aug 2009, 11:09
by weldore
i think in the wiki it says it doesnt react to anything so far,so i would assume so...but even if it did the pro's would use something like barcoat to isolate the paint underneath as it is alcohol based...you cant drink it tho

Re: rustoleum and spray paint
Posted: 11 Aug 2009, 12:28
by CovKid
You can of course spray rustoleum too. In fact if I was having it sprayed, I'd still use that paint.
Re: rustoleum and spray paint
Posted: 11 Aug 2009, 16:20
by AngeloEvs
Don't do it if you plan a 2K spray later. Its an absolute nightmare, slightest breakthrough on the Barcoat and you will have to spray the whole panel again. Barcoat needs flatting back, you will get stone chips that need touching up, odd spots of rust and your enamel will always be there to screw up any touching up or repairs in the future. Trust me, its one or the other..............
Re: rustoleum and spray paint
Posted: 11 Aug 2009, 16:21
by CovKid
Agree

Re: rustoleum and spray paint
Posted: 11 Aug 2009, 16:31
by eatcustard
Rusto with a roller first then a Pro spray with rusto later then.

Re: rustoleum and spray paint
Posted: 11 Aug 2009, 20:53
by meggles
Definately a BIG risk of a reaction later if you use Rustoleum now and spray with a spirit based paint later. Spray later with Rustoleum and no probs! This from an expert with millions of years of experience. (Well, about 30 years actually.!!!)

No not me, my brother!
Re: rustoleum and spray paint
Posted: 12 Aug 2009, 06:24
by eatcustard
Does rusto give a good finish if sprayed, (as in normal spray paint)?
or should I just wait and get it done properly
Re: rustoleum and spray paint
Posted: 12 Aug 2009, 06:54
by artl2377
LOL this thread beat me to my second question on the board !!
But I think I had alread answered it for my self, using the magic of boolean* logic.
..one of the properties of Rustoleum is that it is a rust inhibitor ? thus putting a zinc oxide based barrier between the rust and the inhibitor defeats (at least part of) the object ?
so here is my question, calling on the weath of knowldge on painting:
We are going from red to either orange or yellow.
Barcoat - seems a no no
Rusto - to spray or roll ? and if spraying is the answer, would we be OK with one of those cheapy hand held electric sprayers (around £20) or are we better off buying a decent low end compressor and paining gear (around £150)
I am erring towards the compressor, but probably because it is another toy for me to have - and struggling to justify the purchase what else woudl i do with a compressor ? (no "obvious" answers plesae LOL )
*had to get a plug in there for doncasters only other famous son

Re: rustoleum and spray paint
Posted: 12 Aug 2009, 07:23
by eatcustard
Artl
We must be thinking the same thing
I have found this
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/92138/Pow ... &source=aw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.screwfix.com/cats/102110/Pow ... s/Sprayers" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
£20 ones are double poo that's runnier than water
Small compressors don't have the puff to do a hole van in one hit.
Re: rustoleum and spray paint
Posted: 12 Aug 2009, 09:16
by CovKid
Rustoleum can certainly be sprayed, gives an excellent finish and arguably more rust-inhibiting than 2-pack. Lot easier to touch up chips later too. A few would vouch for that having tried the rattle cans but that obviously means a stip down, lots of masking and lots of space. A body shop could do it in rustoleum if thats what you wanted, and if you've done a reasonably good job of rollering, getting a rustoleum blow over to stick won't be a problem.
Theres another quality to rustoleum if anyone has noticed. 2-pack is a very hard paint but rustoleum (even after a year) has a certain rubberyness to it. I don't mean its soft, but it seems to be far more resilient to chips, absorbing the impact to some extent. To be honest there are a whole host of reasons why I like rustoleum but i've seem some rollered vans lately that have been so good, you'd have to look very hard indeed to tell they had been!
Just remember though, for all of rustoleums qualities, if you paint over rust, it will work its way back through. After a year or more, those areas that I treated with vactan first have held their own but seams can be a big problem unless you grind them out and treat them well. In some cases seam rot can be extensive and short of replacing for new, the most you'll do is slow it down.
Re: rustoleum and spray paint
Posted: 12 Aug 2009, 09:28
by eatcustard
I think is will be rusto with a sprayer from screwfix
Now to start to prep up for painting.
Re: rustoleum and spray paint
Posted: 12 Aug 2009, 12:26
by artl2377
ah eggy, i had already commtied to goign halvies on this
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... K:MEWAX:IT" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
+ a few bits that i "need"
We will nto start for a week or so yet - the garage roof needs sorting before we start - there is alwas something !!!
and ~Mrs artl has changed her mind on the colour scheme well 5 or 6 times (thats in hundreds by the way - evertime she sees a van - its oo that looks good and so on and so forth)
cheers for all the advice