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Brake pad ok for MOT??

Posted: 30 May 2009, 20:33
by bmouthboyo
Hi,

OK i have read around the wiki but i put the wheel back on without measuring the thickness.

Does this need replacing?

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If so do I need to do both wheels?

Thanks

Re: Brake pad ok for MOT??

Posted: 30 May 2009, 20:42
by fullsunian
Hi two things... looks like some thing is leaking in the drum, as fluid can be seen in fot on the fitting springs/mounting and it also looks like you need new shoes as it looks like the friction material is coming away from the main shoe. Yes change both sides.... :ok

Re: Brake pad ok for MOT??

Posted: 30 May 2009, 20:55
by bmouthboyo
The liquid was my spraying a little plus gas on the springs and adjuster as it had been sat still for 5 years.

Would I need to replace both sides? Is the thickness ok?

Re: Brake pad ok for MOT??

Posted: 30 May 2009, 21:00
by fullsunian
Ya thickness looks ok. Just abit worried about that gap between the friction material and the shoe, looks like its breaking away. Yes change both sides and by that I mean all four shoes.

Re: Brake pad ok for MOT??

Posted: 30 May 2009, 21:31
by Oldiebut goodie
fullsunian wrote:Ya thickness looks ok. Just abit worried about that gap between the friction material and the shoe, looks like its breaking away. Yes change both sides and by that I mean all four shoes.
Isn't that friction material riveted on ( looks like a rivet there) if so they wouldn't be as close as with bonded material?
In the old days we always used to rivet our own replacement friction material and that gap would be normal.

Re: Brake pad ok for MOT??

Posted: 30 May 2009, 21:40
by Ian Hulley
Looks to me like you need to buy a new set of brake shoes and a fitting kit ... there's no harm in being safe. You NEVER fit half a set ... these are safety items and you would be causing an imbalance.

Ian.

Re: Brake pad ok for MOT??

Posted: 30 May 2009, 21:52
by bmouthboyo
ok is it a very big job?

Also whats in the fittign kit? Do you meen piston etc? cause its not leaking at all.

Re: Brake pad ok for MOT??

Posted: 30 May 2009, 22:25
by Ian Hulley
The fitting kit is the springs and the shoe hold-down assemblies (for one side) ... which appear to be corroded on your's. Start with a new set and you know what you're dealing with.

As for whether it's a big job ... some people find checking the oil too bigger job.

Ian

Re: Brake pad ok for MOT??

Posted: 30 May 2009, 23:51
by Red Westie
Looking at how thin the brake lining material is at the top of your picture I would hazard a guess that the rivets are already touching the brake drum at that point. When this is allowed to happen the metal rivets wear groves in the drum surface, if this is the case then you will also need both rear drums replacing as well.
So parts:
New brake shoe set (that's 4 shoes in all) 2 fitting kits (springs and retaining clips) and if the drums are badly worn or scored by the rivets: a pair of brake drums.
Check the wheel cylinders carefully for leaks by pulling back the seals.
Sounds expensive? but the parts are cheaper than you think.
Going back to the original question of wether it would pass an MOT.....well the criteria for passing is braking efficiency (how much actual braking effort is being produced) brake ballance (within 10% across the same axle) and the important one here: brake condition (which we know are worn out) although I doubt an MOT tester would actually have remove the inpection plug on the back plate to have spotted that.
Martin