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rather technical about trials bike

Posted: 16 May 2009, 20:05
by jaylo264
my 10 y. o. lad wants a trials bike instead of his PY 80, so went to look at a TY80 today ; definite rattle from somewhere engine wise , seller tells me "it's the cooling fins , they always rattle , you've never heard it afor cos both your bikes are watercooled ". :shock:
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Never heard this before , has anyone ?
jaylo

Re: rather technical about trials bike

Posted: 16 May 2009, 20:31
by Steve T
I take it is a 2 stroke? could be the reed valve, sounds like a rattle in a good way if that makes sense, it is on the inlet side of carb, when worn they can vibrate. To get over that, performace reed valves would help. I did this on a DT175 some years back and cured the problem / made it sound better


Just found this http://www.tytrials.co.uk/trailandtrial ... ntake.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Steve

Re: rather technical about trials bike

Posted: 16 May 2009, 20:53
by Rozzo
the fins do ping & vibrate and watercooleds mask the combustion noise better.

Re: rather technical about trials bike

Posted: 16 May 2009, 21:11
by SplendiferousII
NoTY80's dont rattle. But even if it does and the price is right they are simple enough to sort out.

My first Trials bike was a TY125 (yep not a 175) loved it.

Re: rather technical about trials bike

Posted: 16 May 2009, 21:54
by jaylo264
thanks guys , it's so old the seller has no idea of year and wants £450 for it .

:shock:

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jaylo

Re: rather technical about trials bike

Posted: 17 May 2009, 05:49
by Titus A Duxass
jaylo264 wrote:thanks guys , it's so old the seller has no idea of year and wants £450 for it .

:shock:

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jaylo

Walk away at that price, that's way over the top for an ancient (but good) bike.
They were quite ringy-ding-dingy as I recall.

Re: rather technical about trials bike

Posted: 17 May 2009, 06:02
by Rozzo
Titus A Duxass wrote:
jaylo264 wrote:thanks guys , it's so old the seller has no idea of year and wants £450 for it .

:shock:

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jaylo

Walk away at that price, that's way over the top for an ancient (but good) bike.
They were quite ringy-ding-dingy as I recall.
the problem is that there aren't that many purpose built trials bikes for kids,, its not a play bike it's a dedicated competition bike and just like kids motocrossers they always get good money. i'd say it isn't that expensive if its complete.
to illustrate that look at this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/yamaha-ty80-trial ... C294%3A100" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: rather technical about trials bike

Posted: 17 May 2009, 17:12
by quagmire
they weigh a ton mate,i got callum one,but they are so heavy so i got him a little beta for£650,was mint tho.then i got him a gasgas txt50 boy.great little bike,think i paid about £575(but that was a steal).the rattle probably is the fins but could be the rings.pi$$ easy to fit tho and always available. :ok

Re: rather technical about trials bike

Posted: 17 May 2009, 19:37
by weerickyni
try a slighty younger bike like a kx they can come with smaller wheels loads of people getting rid of trials/scrambler bikes at the min.. for £450 u should get a pretty good usable bike!

Re: rather technical about trials bike

Posted: 17 May 2009, 19:52
by Red Westie
Little end (needle roller bearing) noise? very common (will need a gudgeon pin at the same time) not very expensive.
As long as it's not a rumble which may indicate a possible (crank rebuild)
Martin

Re: rather technical about trials bike

Posted: 17 May 2009, 20:10
by jaylo264
Ta , fellas , i did walk away from it , and my wee lad didnae fancy it anyway , wants a Beta like his big bro . The seller said he had fitted new rings and top end bearing , but it was absolutely no comparison to that ebay one at 1200 smackers -- lovely that one !
ta again,
jaylo

Re: rather technical about trials bike

Posted: 18 May 2009, 12:22
by Snag20
Ive just bought a Sachs ZX125--road registered (2000) but NOT running. Had a new barrel and piston fitted. Has some wiring issues as it has previously been alight and repairs attempted/started.

Anybody got a wiring diagram ? I believe this bike is a copy of a Yamaha DT125 but not sure which model ?

Any body know much about Power valve set up ??


Treve may be calling on you kind assistance as my local crosser expert !!

cheers