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1.6 diesel, none turbo, 1981 van with cracked up rusted head. Still looking for a head for my block but soon I'll be looking for a new head myself. Got an engine but turned out to be full of water! Some idiot of a scrap yard got a crashed golf, took off the bonnet and everything protecting the engine and let it fill up with water and now there is rust inside the block which could bust up the piston rings... not a goer. However the head is good. Does an ME head go onto a CS block?

And by the way my (Kenyan) logbook says that my engine has engine number CH is that a mistake?

Dubwana

You need to find out if the head of the engine filled with water has hydro buckets .Your CS block wont have the oil gallery for hydraulic buckets as this engine has shimmed adjusted buckets for the camshaft.Remove the head off the CH engine and compare the head gaskets to each CH/CS.I may be wrong but i thought all golf diesel engine had hydraulic buckets but not shimmed as would be for the CS engine.Some one should come along and advice on this.

by camper » 17 Apr 2009, 17:05

You need to find out if the head of the engine filled with water has hydro buckets .Your CS block wont have the oil gallery for hydraulic buckets as this engine has shimmed adjusted buckets for the camshaft. Remove the head off the CH engine and compare the head gaskets to each CH/CS.I may be wrong but i thought all golf diesel engine had hydraulic buckets but not shimmed as would be for the CS engine.Some one should come along and advice on this.
------According to VW engine codes a CH is a petrol engine which uses a 34 Pict, 5/6 Carb.
-------An ME VW engine code is a Golf Mk 2 1.6D Same head configuration as the CS Hydraulic inverted Buckets (Not SHIMMED)-------
-------CS Engine Cylinder Head is Hydraulic Inverted Buckets (NOT SHIMMED)-----------

Grumpy midget thanks for coming along.But can you advice why 1.6n/td engines fitted to T25s had shimmed adjusted cam buckets & not hydraulic ?.Does this mean then a C S engine is not a factory engine for T25s.

I pulled this out of wikipedia.

engine code
ME
configuration
1588 cm³ (96 cu. in.) inline 4, bore 76,5 — stroke 86.4 mm
block
cast iron, five bearings
head
SOHC 2-valve per cylinder, hydro lifters, 23:1 compression
fuel
distributor injection pump, whirl chamber, altitude corrector
output
40.3 kW (54 hp) @ 4800 rpm, 96 Nm (70 ft·lbf) @ 2500 rpm
aspiration
cast aluminum intake manifold, cast iron exhaust manifold
application
VW Golf 5/88-10/91, VW Caddy 8/90-7/92


[E D I T] 50 hp 1.6 D
engine code
CS
configuration
1588 cm³ (96 cu. in.) inline 4, bore 76,5 × stroke 86.4 mm
block
cast iron, five bearings
head
SOHC 2-valve per cylinder, mechanical lifters, 23,5:1 compression
fuel
distributor injection pump, whirl chamber
output
37 kW (50 hp) @ 4200 rpm, 100 Nm (74 ft·lbf) @ 2500 rpm
aspiration
cast aluminum intake manifold, cast iron exhaust manifold
application
VW Type 2 1/81-7/87

So if this is correct the CS is the standard 1.6 none turbo diesel with mechanical lifters and the ME is the later golf version with hydro lifters. Two engines that look alike but the heads can't be swapped. So enough of the gumph. This I just pulled off the internet. I have no idea what I'm talking about. In reality: (apart from serial numbers) How can you tell them apart? Once you pull off the head what can you see that will immediately show which is which?

This is a head gasket for the CS engine for shimmed adjusted cambuckets. The head gasket for a hydraulic cambucket cylinder head is diffrent "how do i no" . When i had a 1.6/td hydraulic bucket cylinder head skimmed i couldnt use this gasket due to diffrences.The pict of the head gasket was part of a head set for my 1.6n CS engine of which i adjusted with shims the buckets now sold .As i said compare head gaskets between the engines.

So this is the one off my kaput engine. It seems marginally different. I'm just wondering if the engine in the car when I bought it wasn't the original one. It doesn't make too much difference now but it may give me some extra spare parts later... So if the differences are significant any idea what it is?

Thanks

Dubwana

Diffrence was from memory was a extra oil gallery close to the top one in the picts .Ignore the water gallery holes diffrences its okay .

Thanks. So now I know. I got myself a CS...