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van is dead

Posted: 20 Feb 2009, 14:47
by dingo
hi all washed the van this morning and when i went to start it , nothing , it was working fine before hand as i moved it close to the hose .
could i have wet something to cause this ?if so would i have to do anything to fix it or would it dry on its own .
there is nothing when i put the key in the ignition and turn it , nothing , find this strange . this or similar happen to anyone ,
any one any ideas as to what to check or do .was suposed to go off with the kids in the morning so a bit under pressure at the mo ,
help please .

Re: van is dead

Posted: 20 Feb 2009, 14:53
by eatcustard
Battery dead? (they do just go)
Do you have any electrics? (Lights etc)

Do you have jump leads to connect leisure battery to starter battery?

Or lost a connection from battery to starter? (did you jet wash under the van)

Re: van is dead

Posted: 20 Feb 2009, 15:07
by dingo
hello , the lights still work and the radio ,
i have some jump leads but their in the wifes car , should be back in an hour i hope .
i did wash under the van but just with my finger on the hose , you know the way .
the battery looks fine but im not good on the wireing side of things , ill have a good look .
could i have wet the starter motor and that is why there is nothing when i turn the key ?
thanks for your post .

Re: van is dead

Posted: 20 Feb 2009, 15:11
by eatcustard
Short circuit is probably the cause then.

Do you have a hair drier handy?

Re: van is dead

Posted: 20 Feb 2009, 15:13
by Ian Hulley
eatcustard wrote: Do you have jump leads to connect leisure battery to starter battery?

DO NOT DO THIS if you have a proper leisure battery .. just a second car battery.

Ian.

Re: van is dead

Posted: 20 Feb 2009, 15:17
by dingo
not much hair but have a hair dryer ,
where about should i be drying

Re: van is dead

Posted: 20 Feb 2009, 15:18
by eatcustard
Ian,
Why not, (treat me as an idiot)

Re: van is dead

Posted: 20 Feb 2009, 15:21
by eatcustard
Look for the starter motor and try staring there

Its low down at the back of the engine I think (on 2.1)

Re: van is dead

Posted: 20 Feb 2009, 15:25
by Ian Hulley
eatcustard wrote:Why not, (treat me as an idiot)

Because the high current draw can deform the plates and kill the battery. An old answer to a question which crops up every year or so.

I don't need to treat you as an idiot.

Ian.

The starter is back right of the engine when viewed from behind. Check one of the leads hasn't corroded and dropped off (especially the small crimped one :wink: ) ... it's a favourite problem with the starter. You'll be wanting to disconnect the battery earth before touching anything back there else it'll end in tears :D

Re: van is dead

Posted: 20 Feb 2009, 15:35
by dingo
i shall give it a go , keep the peace guys and thanks for your help .

Re: van is dead

Posted: 20 Feb 2009, 15:51
by Ian Hulley
I see our friend has deleted his incorrect location of the starter :rofl

The starter is behind the engine i.e. not inside the engine bay but just forwards of it :wink:

Ian.

Re: van is dead

Posted: 20 Feb 2009, 22:26
by dingo
not fixed yet , as i can see nothing stated above has worked , no joy in being wrong or righh but all the help is welcome .
im just thinking maybe i should call the AA or who ever in the morning and see if one off us is covered , after that im not sure but
im at loss not you guys please dont fall out for my post . thanks for your replys , i went and had a few beers and can still go tommorow
in the car but we will lhave to come back tommorow night .under stand both posts , dont want do any damage more to the van but some times its good to look and diy ooooohhhhoooo .if only i know what to say .... i know PEACE , and thanks , joe out , :oops:

Re: van is dead

Posted: 21 Feb 2009, 08:48
by eatcustard
Sorry I cant be any more help. and giving you duff info about the battery connection

Dont worry about Ian, he must be going through male PMT :rofl

Go for The AA, He's a very nice Man!!!

Re: van is dead

Posted: 21 Feb 2009, 09:21
by Nicola&Tony
Links to some photos and info which might help:
https://club8090.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=34628" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

https://club8090.co.uk/wiki/Al ... t_starting" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Tony

Re: van is dead

Posted: 21 Feb 2009, 11:24
by CovKid
Check that the small spade terminal on the starter motor is still connected. As they corrode, they can just 'drop off'.