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Dizzy etc for 2.0 Aircooled

Posted: 11 Jan 2009, 20:13
by T25rc
Hi there,

I need clarification on whether this is the right dizzy set for my camper, its the 2.0 Aircooled T25. And if it is, has there been any problems of any kind with it that anyone knows of?

http://www.justkampers.com/shop/type_25 ... kit-1.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Thanks a lot
Rich

Re: Dizzy etc for 2.0 Aircooled

Posted: 11 Jan 2009, 20:15
by CovKid
https://club8090.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.p ... &hilit=009" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Dizzy etc for 2.0 Aircooled

Posted: 11 Jan 2009, 20:41
by T25rc
Thanks for that... Doesn't really say in that thread if it is right or where (or if) i can buy one new like the link. Unless i'm being very stupid :oops:

Looking at the just kampers on again, the section it was in was T25, though it says T2 in the description. Though it does list as a 2.0 one, did the Aircooled 2.0 dizzy differ from t2 to t25?

Also from that thread i gather the engine code is CU, is that correct?

Thanks again

Re: Dizzy etc for 2.0 Aircooled

Posted: 11 Jan 2009, 20:45
by CovKid
Rather than cover old ground and repeat the entire thread again, the consensus on this is that 009 distributors (which that one is) are not suitable despite the fact it may be the only 'new' dizzy available. Better to source a good second hand one or rebuild the existing one. Someone will come along soon with the correct number if yours is missing entirely. A 009 lacks vacuum advance and having run them on all kinds of VW enginem they're not a close match except on highly tuned engines. In other words, they do work but nowhere near as good as the correct one.

Re: Dizzy etc for 2.0 Aircooled

Posted: 11 Jan 2009, 20:59
by T25rc
Thanks very much, just what i was lookinng for (but not hoping for :( ) I guess plugs and leads are just a GSF type buy?

I've put up a wanted, but if anyone is reading this with a working one - get in touch! :D

Re: Dizzy etc for 2.0 Aircooled

Posted: 11 Jan 2009, 21:48
by mike the van
I had plugs and leads from GSF listed for 2.0l AC, they were the wrong lengths (all a bit economical on the length) and very stiff leads that would clip in place easily, the branch of GSF I used were not either knowledgable or less charitably ..unhelpful ... 'its the part listed so it must fit'. JK similar problem .. but credited me back no probs... Get the genuine Bosch leads if you can I think the shielded WBX ones may fit , but checks the distributor connectors , pin tin type .. worth the extra..
I got mine off fleabay, nice and flexible so you tie them up out the way and do not strain the plugs.. well worth the extra IMHO

Cheers

Mike

1491 2.0l AC

Re: Dizzy etc for 2.0 Aircooled

Posted: 11 Jan 2009, 22:44
by jason k
go to http://www.brickwerks.co.uk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; for a rebuild kit for the dizzy you have .

Re: Dizzy etc for 2.0 Aircooled

Posted: 11 Jan 2009, 22:53
by T25rc
Does the rebuild kit have everything for a full rebuild then, so it will fix the problem. (i'm trying to think what the problem was, hall sender i think) How difficult is it to rebuild?

Re: Dizzy etc for 2.0 Aircooled

Posted: 11 Jan 2009, 22:54
by jason k
hall sender is all that usually goes.

not a bad job to do.

Re: Dizzy etc for 2.0 Aircooled

Posted: 11 Jan 2009, 23:41
by CovKid
Never actually explored this but the Midlands is still full of very experienced lathe operators, some of which installed their own lathes in sheds and garages. I imagine its not beyond the realms of possibility to have a centre shaft made/rebuilt if it came to it. Perhaps more of an issue if you had points of course but its a thought anyway.

Re: Dizzy etc for 2.0 Aircooled

Posted: 12 Jan 2009, 10:05
by dugcati
Throwing a slant on things....

You can buy vacuum units from GSF (I bought one the other week) and then retro fit them to a non vacuum dizzy - PROVIDED that the dizzy internals have a vacuum connection peg inside

Re: Dizzy etc for 2.0 Aircooled

Posted: 12 Jan 2009, 12:50
by Simon Baxter
Do you realise that there are loads of different vac advance units?
Different rod lengths (so it may not return to it's stop, or advance may be cut short)
Different spring tensions, so it may not advance as it should at certain rpm.

I'm a little confused here, to me the answer is simple.
The dizzy is broke, fix the dizzy.
Buy second hand and it could work for ever, it may die next week...

I don't know what everyone else thinks but when it comes to dizzys you all seem to go the long expensive way around rather than just fixing the problem.
009's are wrong.
Points are very old technology.
Points ignitions systems are going to make things worse as they have about half the spark voltage as electronic ignition.
Rather than messing about with second hand this, not right for application that just fix the problem rather than create new ones!
VW and Bosch spent a lot of time and money making sure that the dizzy worked, why go and disregard all that R&D just to save a few pence in the short term.
JK's dizzy repair kits are cheaper than mine if it's the expense thats bothering you, but last heard they don't fit either, wrong plug.
They are made by a company called Electrix as far as I know, Mine are Genuine Bosch.