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Petrol has dropped but not LPG??
Posted: 21 Oct 2008, 14:33
by irishkeet
Hello
I've noticed that petrol at my nearest Morrisons has dropped from £1.11 to 97.9p...
yet the LPG has stayed at 58.9p
I wonder if price of LPG will drop along with other fuels????
irishkeet
Posted: 21 Oct 2008, 15:09
by steve8090
Its dropped here last week, ASDA is now 48p and Shell is now 50p, you need to have a go at them and stop moaning on here, they don't read it, quote the EEC directive that states clearly that LPG must be at least 50% of petrol.
Wouldn't it be nice to put a post up saying "I've just had a go at Morrisons and they've dropped the price of LPG"
Posted: 21 Oct 2008, 15:36
by ermie571
Steve - thanks for that....I did have a go at Morrisons yesterday when I filled up. I did not know of any such directive!?
Google, here I come....coz 50p would be great.....
Emma
Posted: 21 Oct 2008, 19:49
by ELVIS
local TEXACO just gone from 53p to 59p.
got a copy/linky to the 'important bit' ?
Posted: 22 Oct 2008, 07:51
by ELVIS
steve8090 wrote:Its dropped here last week, ASDA is now 48p and Shell is now 50p, you need to have a go at them and stop moaning on here, they don't read it, quote the EEC directive that states clearly that LPG must be at least 50% of petrol.
Wouldn't it be nice to put a post up saying "I've just had a go at Morrisons and they've dropped the price of LPG"
can you send me the details of the EEC thingy please? will get a few letters fired off!
Posted: 22 Oct 2008, 11:32
by steve8090
It used to be on loads of LPG sites, I'll have to go and search my paperwork for it, found these that relate but they seem to be old data.
-68/414/EEC: Council Directive of 20 December 1968 - imposing an obligation on ... Study on LPG tax structure and LPG price stucture of EU Member States and ...
http://www.abgs.gov.tr/files/TAIEX/2007 ... oducts.doc
Price statistics on fuel, natural gas, gasoline, crude, heating oil and electricity. ... There are literally hundreds on EU directives related to energy . ...
www.energy.eu/ -
Due to its low fuel duty, LPG retails at about half the price of unleaded petrol ... on 31st March 2005 following a directive from the European Commission. ...
www.drivelpg.co.uk/faq.php
Posted: 22 Oct 2008, 13:10
by irishkeet
steve8090 wrote:Its dropped here last week, ASDA is now 48p and Shell is now 50p, you need to have a go at them and stop moaning on here, they don't read it, quote the EEC directive that states clearly that LPG must be at least 50% of petrol.
Wouldn't it be nice to put a post up saying "I've just had a go at Morrisons and they've dropped the price of LPG"
hello steve
im not "moaning on here" just curious to see what others think, thanks for the EEC info
irishkeet
Posted: 24 Oct 2008, 06:13
by Nicola&Tony
My apologies if I'm being stoopid here but I've studied the above links and I've been googling and googling and googling some more and I'm still unable to locate a European directive that I could cite when expressing my annoyance at the lack of downward movement in lpg prices, when handing over me hard earned after filling up.
Yes it's still very cheap compared to petrol, but in the current climate I need to save a few pennies wherever I can.
Has anybody found the directive yet? There sure are a lot of EU directives!
Tony
Posted: 24 Oct 2008, 08:17
by Mocki
i cant find it either, but i have seen it years ago, or think i have, its one of them things that ive heard of but not sure where .........
i mentioned it at my local fill up yesterday, and was imformed that its is less than half the price if derv, which it is there........just......but they didnt say it was rubbish, or that they had never heard of it.......
keep looking!!
Posted: 24 Oct 2008, 08:23
by steve8090
OK perspective, bulk LPG is 54p per litre, (road gas with duty, domestic gas is an awful lot cheaper) so if you are paying that then is is break even, anything less like ASDA they are making a loss but getting the custom, anything over then you are being ripped off for profit.
Posted: 24 Oct 2008, 09:31
by lloyd
steve8090 wrote:you need to have a go at them and stop moaning on here, they don't read it, quote the EEC directive that states clearly that LPG must be at least 50% of petrol.
Not sure what this says. Does it mean more then 50%??? Cus I see LPG prices both sides of 1/2 the price of petrol.
Sure would be nice to have a link to the EEC directive.
Posted: 24 Oct 2008, 10:03
by steve8090
Yes Lloyd it would be nice, it came out in around 2005 and I'm sure in all of my paper work I've got a copy I'll keep looking and it used to be on many many websites, now if its been withdrawn or amended I have no knowledge of that, but please be assured it does exist somewhere or it did exist, like most other benficial directives they seem to be shelved conveniently and the more inane ones tend to take precident, I'll keep searching for it as I'm sure many other s now will.
Posted: 24 Oct 2008, 10:17
by lloyd
Thanks Steve
Posted: 24 Oct 2008, 11:04
by ermie571
Found this on taxation...
http://europa.eu/scadplus/leg/en/lvb/l27019.htm
don't understand it though....still got 1/2 hour lunch left!
found some more
http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleasesAct ... anguage=en
Em
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Posted: 24 Oct 2008, 15:28
by kathyshack
I e-mailed UKLPG through
www.drivelpg.co.uk the independent consumer guide to LPG autogas in the UK, and asked him if he knew of any directive but he didn't mention it in his reply, but htis is what he wrote:-
Hello Kathy
Thank you for your enquiry
There are a number of issues to bear in mind:
There are different global markets for LPG and oil and there is not a direct link between the raw material price of these fuels. Thus LPG prices will move at different times and by different amounts to oil.
LPG prices at the pumps have never been as volatile as petrol / diesel. This is because the autogas market is only 12% of the LPG market in the UK which in the main is influenced by more stable gas and electricity prices. Therefore gas supply companies even out the price - sometimes making and sometimes losing. Their pricing is there own commercial decision
Over the years autogas has averaged around half the price of petrol and diesel at the pumps and this has been sufficient to sustain the market. At times it has been below half price and at times it has been above (as now)
Because of the increase in fuel prices, the 40% reduction in fuel costs is actually worth a lot more in £'s than it was a year ago, so even if under 40% it is still saving the LPG motorist more money than last year.
There is a wide variation in regional LPG prices, as there is for petrol / diesel.
www.petrol prices.com gives national average figures. At the end of last week theses were:
Avg.
Min.
Max.
Unleaded:
105.2p
99.9p
121.9p
Diesel:
116.7p
109.9p
134.9p
LRP:
110.9p
106.9p
118.9p
Super:
112.6p
102.9p
129.9p
LPG:
57.5p
49.9p
63.9p
I hope that the above gives you a clearer picture of things and that LPG will continue to provide you with chaep and greener motoring
Mike Chapman
Autogas Manager
UKLPG
www.drivelpg.co.uk the independent consumer guide to LPG autogas in the UK