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turbo'in a DG engine........
Posted: 18 Dec 2007, 13:29
by rob whitaker
just asking as alternative engines engines came up in convo over beers at the weekend...........
so can it/has it been done b4...........
wot internal engine mods carbs etc were needed etc if so..........
(dont shoot me if there is a thread already about this had a bit of a look but couldn't find owt
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cheers
Posted: 18 Dec 2007, 18:53
by andysimpson
turboing it is the easiest bit, keeping it together is another these engines are fragile.
Posted: 18 Dec 2007, 19:07
by rob whitaker
are they that fragile.......i was led to believe the DG was quite a bullitt proof set up,must have miss-understood,no probs tho like i said was just tap room talk and wondered thats all.....
cheers
Posted: 18 Dec 2007, 19:56
by syncroandy
Rob, could be a fun project. Lots of turbo bugs out there. Have a look here:
http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewforum.php?f=37
Posted: 18 Dec 2007, 20:28
by rob whitaker
that site looks interesting will give it a looking at later........
not after giving it loads of extra power just some more as it's a full blown camper and when it's loaded up it's very slugish......
cheers
Posted: 18 Dec 2007, 20:42
by andysimpson
A t25 camper is well over twice the weight of a bug. The bug people like them for the waterboxer cranks as they much stronger than Aircooled ones. They are also putting alot of money into rods and pistons to take it.
Posted: 18 Dec 2007, 21:01
by syncroandy
Who said anything about practical or cheap ? A turbo bus project could still be fun, but I'm not sure I'd start with a fully loaded camper.
Posted: 18 Dec 2007, 21:26
by rob whitaker
it would only to aid it up hills etc guys...........
not wanting to start drag racing it.........
would it not take an extra 10/15 bhp by adding a turbo??
Posted: 18 Dec 2007, 21:31
by toomanytoys
Fitting a turbo is possible.. but you cant do it top a tired 100k mile engine and gearbox... you would then have to rebuild the brakes (upgrade really) and suspension......... so if you are thinking you can do it for 100 quid...... dont even bother....
It would be perfectly feasable to get 150bhp and lots ot torque from it... but that means an engine built properly and to last...
If you have a wedge of cash burning a hole in your pocket, talk to me... I am working on something at the moment, but cant say any more as its all under development.
The wbx isnt particularly "fragile", it just needs looking after.... It does have some design "features" (read as faults) though...
T25 faults
Posted: 18 Dec 2007, 21:42
by youthy giblets!!!
[/quote]The wbx isnt particularly "fragile", it just needs looking after.... It does have some design "features" (read as faults) though...
Like head studs that shud have been more resistant to corrosion
Re: T25 faults
Posted: 18 Dec 2007, 21:50
by andysimpson
youthy giblets!!! wrote:
The wbx isnt particularly "fragile", it just needs looking after.... It does have some design "features" (read as faults) though...
Like head studs that shud have been more resistant to corrosion
[/quote]
Or the snapping con rods or oil pressure problems or corroded heads
Posted: 18 Dec 2007, 21:54
by joshb
If i was going forced induction i would stick an eaton m45 charger and a chargecooler on it, of course bottome end would need to be fully sorted dynamicly balanced blah de blah, ( i put a m45 etc on my 1300cc spitfire, ran 14's at the pod at 5psi boost, had no traction though, need a spool or lsd really)
Posted: 18 Dec 2007, 21:59
by andysimpson
joshb wrote:If i was going forced induction i would stick an eaton m45 charger and a chargecooler on it, of course bottome end would need to be fully sorted dynamicly balanced blah de blah, ( i put a m45 etc on my 1300cc spitfire, ran 14's at the pod at 5psi boost, had no traction though, need a spool or lsd really)
The one thing they are excellent for is balance, no need for any improvements unless going really high revs not the diesel like revs these things normally goto.
Posted: 20 Dec 2007, 13:57
by Kenny
Rob,
Have a look here, might answer some questions? Not sure whether it was a 'success' or not?!?
http://www.akciddento.com/modules.php?n ... age&pid=15
Re: T25 faults
Posted: 21 Dec 2007, 19:35
by toomanytoys
andysimpson wrote:youthy giblets!!! wrote:
The wbx isnt particularly "fragile", it just needs looking after.... It does have some design "features" (read as faults) though...
Like head studs that shud have been more resistant to corrosion
Or the snapping con rods or oil pressure problems or corroded heads
[/quote]
As I said... not without it design faults... the TD aint perfect either...
I personally know a few wbx that have gone 200k + (D/TD's are pretty "dusted" by 100k...
But I aint going down that WBX are gay, dwheezils are great thread again.
