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Got my recently acquired van running (1.9 petrol transporter) but still needs an MOT and looking underneath there seems to be a bit of rot. Will these automatically be MOT failures and are they fixable.

This pic is underneath on drivers side - front is towards the right
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This is passenger side front towards left
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And this is inside- front towards left- i.e its the non sliding door side and above the first picture
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oh dear.the first pic appears to be a jacking point.if it is.and its rotten.then its a mot fail....

...But it is repairable.....I know coz I had to do one for one of my vans a couple of years back....the sill comes with the jacking point, and my tame welder cut and and replaced for me.

Tis the welding that will be expensive, so ask around and find someone local and reasonable...unless of course you can do it yourself to MOT standard!

Good luck

Emma

Here's the official wording on rusT wOrM and the MOT!

Corrosion
A vehicle can fail with respect to corrosion for:
• Excessive corrosion in a 'prescribed area' - within 30 cms of certain components, e.g. brakes, steering, suspension, seat belt mountings etc.
• Excessive corrosion in a 'prescribed area', but which is likely to adversely affect the vehicle's brakes or steering.

Note
'Excessive corrosion' can mean a hole or a significantly weakened structure.

for more detail see here: http://www.ukmot.com/mot_check.asp#information15

I think it will need welding although bodywise its not too bad
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Can anyone hazard a rough guess at price for welding what's there? I didn't pay much for the van but there would have to be a point where its not economical - also needs an exhaust which I know aren't cheap - and then a bed at least!

morzov wrote: a point where its not economical - !

what's that then ?

If I'm not mistaken, the second picture used to be a jacking point (which seems to have rotted away) and the inside view doesn't bode all that well for the condition of the B-pillar.

I'd get that quote from the welder first before doing anything else.

morzov wrote: Can anyone hazard a rough guess at price for welding what's there?

I do all my old welding and have done work for other's, tho looking at pictures theres no way of being able to put a price on it, all depends on if you want decent price panels or repair sections out of plate steel!!! plus what standard of finish do you want showroom or mot pass????

Reason I ask for a rough guess is that its got no Mot and therefore difficult to get round anywhere to get a quote.

The intention is to get through MOT and then fit a rock and roll bed and paint it (by roller) and use for bike trips ocassional camping. So I'd like bodywork to be respectable but not perfect. And I don't do any welding.

I suppose if getting through MOT was going to be around £750 which is poss if new exhaust required then I might be better to offload now as the engine seems pretty good and look for something more solid.

I can't see any reason for a fail but if its rotten there i would suspect front seatbelt points.

might be worth bunging a friendly MOT man a few quid for a drink and asking for a bit of unofficial/informal pre MOT advice on what is going to be a def. fail and what isnt, if he is willing to have a quick informed look at the bits that are worrying you, then decide after that. good luck with it in any case, mate.

I can't see any reason for a fail but if its rotten there i would suspect front seatbelt points.

Sill and jacking points classed as a structural part of the vehicle therfore it would fail an mot, looks like you can see straight through to the ground (tarmac) from inside the van so outer sill an floor section need repair aswell as jacking points, easy enough repair although inner sill will probably need looking at where it meets the outer sill.

a bit like this one
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This one not quite as bad as yours as it was caught in time, hasnt affected jacking points or inner sill

within 12 inches of the rear trailing arm mounting is the only place this will(should fail)!
also anything within 12 inches (sphere) of the front seat belt mount,
all other rust is an advise as as stated even though its in a perscribed area it isnot with 12 inches of a steering/suspension point or adversly effects the steering/suspension.

just like the fact that the front steps are NOT a reason for a failure ,no matter how bad they are! although they are common failures.
all down to poor mot testers
so tecnically as long as there is 12 inches of sill in front of the trailing arm mount the rest can be missing and it will still pass!

common sense goes out the window when carring out an mot test and thats what they tell you on the testers course!