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Anti Roll Bar
Posted: 22 Sep 2007, 14:28
by squire
The anti roll bar has gone on the van, a very nice man from the AA came out and strapped it up so the van could get home, but now it needs doin.
How much are we lookin at to fix it....? including mechanics time as i will not be doin it.
Cheers me dears.
Posted: 22 Sep 2007, 14:36
by HarryMann
What has 'gone'?
The drop link has broken maybe?
Posted: 22 Sep 2007, 14:57
by squire
i dont know, we weren't with the van when it happened but the people who were have told us the roll bar has gone, the roll bar has i can only guess snapped or come awayat one end.
Unfortunatley im no mechanic and imformation i have at wot happened at 2am this morning is kind of jaded
Posted: 22 Sep 2007, 16:56
by HarryMann
Well, they don't break as far as I know, but the drop-links do... disconnected and tied up securely out of the way the van can be driven OK, with a little more sway and less sureness of foot on corners, but not dangerous per se...
Posted: 22 Sep 2007, 17:19
by squire
That sounds like what has happened, how much to get it repaired.........? roughly..?
Posted: 22 Sep 2007, 17:35
by HarryMann
2nd hand drop link, depending on what type (there are 3 types, but one is a Syncro and think one an early Aircooled cranked shape, so they'll need to know model and year)... and an hour or so, clean the therad up and get the damping rings, sleeve and cup washers from GSF (German Swedish & French)..
Syncrospares UK can probably send you a drop link 2nd hand, or Syncro-Nutz (Shotts) might have one too...
Think the damping rings (rubbers) and other parts to fit are in the Wiki...
This change came about circa Chassis No. F 24-K-048 497 (October 1988)
Some earlier radius rod and attachment detail changes seem to have taken place after F 24-G-175-000 (July 1986)
Stabiliser Link Bar (Vert Link bar, threaded M10 at bottom with eye-end @ top) For 21mm anti-roll bar
Earlier 251 411 049 F (which still has to be installed handed, seemingly having a slight bend near the bottom, bends inwards at the bottom)
Later 251 411 049 (J left; K right)
Not same as 251 411 051 (Early 2WD Cranked) or 251 051A (Late 2WD Straight) AFAIK, but ETKA gives two part nos.(AFAIK)
Don't try undoing the 10mm nut at the bottom of this unless you have to, they break the thread off, the sleeve probably holds moisture and ends up as part of the thread - when refitting a repaired, new or original assembly, use plenty of assembly compound to prevent corrosion, anything is better than nothing e.g. copperslip, or grease on threads and inside of sleeve. They can be repaired by cutting off at the shoulder/ redrilling and threading carefully with 10mm or equiv metric studding - or gas welding. Use the spacer sleeve (251 411 047) as a guide!
The stab bar link also requires (num per side):
Top Rubber Mounting (21mm) 251 411 045 (1)
Damping Rings (rubbers either side of lower joint) 251 411 039 (2)
Spacer Sleeve 251 411 047 (1)
Nut M10 Locking (900 876 02) (1)
From above...
251 051A (Late 2WD Straight) - so thats prob your stabiliser bar link (ARB drop-link)