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oil pump
Posted: 20 Aug 2007, 20:37
by dave friday
V W say there're obsolete so where do i get one please?[the drive shaft end is worn and it's a bit cogy when i turn it!].
the rest of the engine is in the machine shop,reboare and pistons,crank regrind,new head[bare].
any advice welcome!.
and are all the piston oil squirters the same diameter?.
Posted: 20 Aug 2007, 20:43
by toomanytoys
GSF/Eurocarparts etc...
Posted: 20 Aug 2007, 20:49
by dave friday
cheers Toomanytoys, any problems having parts deliverd to you?.
Posted: 20 Aug 2007, 21:54
by toomanytoys
Can be a bit slow sometimes.. so I am trying to put parts on the shelf...
Posted: 21 Aug 2007, 19:57
by Aidan
be aware of clearance issue with aftermarket shadek oil pump for diesel, check rotational clearance of no. 3 before fitting sump, solution is clearancing or fitting original pick up I believe.
Posted: 21 Aug 2007, 20:43
by andysimpson
Beaker wrote:be aware of clearance issue with aftermarket shadek oil pump for diesel, check rotational clearance of no. 3 before fitting sump, solution is clearancing or fitting original pick up I believe.
The aftermarket pick up pipes are completly useless and only fit for the bin.
Posted: 22 Aug 2007, 06:53
by dave friday
so do i have the original pump pickup's working surface machined flat [where the gears ware it away].
ta.
ps, the machine shop guys say it's ok to reuse the big end bolts!,any comments?.
Posted: 22 Aug 2007, 19:43
by andysimpson
dave friday wrote:so do i have the original pump pickup's working surface machined flat [where the gears ware it away].
ta.
ps, the machine shop guys say it's ok to reuse the big end bolts!,any comments?.
Get it flat and fit original pick up. The bolts MUST only be used once.
Posted: 22 Aug 2007, 19:56
by Russel
The only time there is a clearance ishue is when u are using it on a 1.9 not on a 1.6.The 1.9 has counterweighted conrods wich interefeer with the one make of pump.This is easily solved by removing a small part of the pump.
Russel
Posted: 22 Aug 2007, 20:03
by HarryMann
You could use a surface plate with abrasive to get the pickup flat, if you can't get it machined... see Wiki
https://club8090.co.uk/wiki/Te ... 5293037b21
easy with ally, just keep vacuuming out the abrasive paper... and choose a suitable grade. (about 180 should be about right, don't be tempted to keep flatting when paper is blocked).
Posted: 22 Aug 2007, 20:13
by dave friday
Thanks everyone,Harrymann the engine is in a machine shop so having extra parts done,pump,turbo, and exhaust manifold will be quite satisfying.
Posted: 22 Aug 2007, 20:23
by syncroandy
Dave> ps, the machine shop guys say it's ok to reuse the big end bolts!,any comments?.
Andy> The bolts MUST only be used once.
Bit of a hijack here, but I'm just about to put an SB back together and don't want to "cock" it up.
Re. the oil pump, I'm planning to make a hybrid of the SB 36mm pump body, and T3 pickup tube. I'll let y'all know how that comes out. I want the 36mm pump as the head is hydraulic vs. the solid lifter JX.
My big-ends have studs NOT bolts, torqued plus 1/4 turn. Bentley does not say replace. I am not planning to replace them.
Main caps look to be std. non-strech 10.9 bolts, torqued to 65Nm. Bentley does not say replace. I am not planning to replace them.
Crank pulley bolt will be replaced as per manuals.
Main shells look good except the no.1 which has some scuffing. Is it OK to replace just no. 1 or must they all the done together ?
I am planning to replace the intermediate shaft bearings.
What do you say Andy ?
Posted: 22 Aug 2007, 21:23
by andysimpson
syncroandy wrote:Dave> ps, the machine shop guys say it's ok to reuse the big end bolts!,any comments?.
Andy> The bolts MUST only be used once.
Bit of a hijack here, but I'm just about to put an SB back together and don't want to "willie" it up.
Re. the oil pump, I'm planning to make a hybrid of the SB 36mm pump body, and T3 pickup tube. I'll let y'all know how that comes out. I want the 36mm pump as the head is hydraulic vs. the solid lifter JX.
My big-ends have studs NOT bolts, torqued plus 1/4 turn. Bentley does not say replace. I am not planning to replace them.
Main caps look to be std. non-strech 10.9 bolts, torqued to 65Nm. Bentley does not say replace. I am not planning to replace them.
Crank pulley bolt will be replaced as per manuals.
Main shells look good except the no.1 which has some scuffing. Is it OK to replace just no. 1 or must they all the done together ?
I am planning to replace the intermediate shaft bearings.
What do you say Andy ?
Don't use an old pump, use a new one with old pickup.
The bentley manual is 15years+ out of date, vw now state replace big end bolts/studs. VW update things due to experience. I would not dream of re using any big end bolt or stud, its not worth the risk if it breaks its total destruction. Main bearing cap bolts are less important but again i would never re use. The main bearings should come in a full set so may as well put them all in. Good luck finding intermediate bearings in this country.
Posted: 22 Aug 2007, 21:55
by HarryMann
AsAndySays you won't find the int bearings, unless Simon Baxter sells you a set... (Oops
)
even then they'll need line-reaming, as they probably don't come to finish size.
But then if anyone can find them, you do seem to have a knack of getting all sorts of useful bits and bobs... so if you do track some down, make sure you order half a dozen sets for the rest of us
Posted: 22 Aug 2007, 22:10
by andysimpson
Don't get to worried about intermediate bearings, people worry way too much about them, unless they are really worn stick it together as is. If VW thought they would need replacement they would sell them. I have never seen any that worried me. New engines have play in the shaft straight out of the factory.