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help sump plug spinning

Posted: 22 Jul 2007, 17:15
by markeymagicbus
hi

any ideas how i can get my sump plug out its spinning at the mo , i have a spare engine , can you change the sump

its a 1.9 petrol water cooled if that helps

thanks mark

Posted: 22 Jul 2007, 18:45
by wasserleaker
the engine cases are split vertically and the sump plug thread is in one half of the pair, so you cant swap the sump for a good one if the thread is knackd, like you can with an air-cooled eng.
try gripping the bolt tightly with mole grips/self grip wrench and applying downward force as well as anti-clockwise [undo-ing] force and it may come out, then you'll need to rethread the hole bigger with a suitable thread cutting taper tap, and get an M16 x 1.5 renault sump plug, or helicoil insert it and re-use std. sump plug. [M14 X 1.5 MM Pitch, if i remember right.]

Posted: 22 Jul 2007, 19:09
by markeymagicbus
thanks

ive tried to give it some down ward turms with a pair of grips but no joy

looks like i will have to drill it ,,, balls

Posted: 22 Jul 2007, 19:17
by wasserleaker
seems quite a common prob, mine was held in with body filler and virtually fell out when i tried to undo it! [cheers, previous owner!] heavy handed t-wats.
had to re-tap it and fit a bigger bolt. :evil:

Posted: 22 Jul 2007, 19:19
by markeymagicbus
now thats scary :shock:

Posted: 22 Jul 2007, 21:11
by T'Onion
you could try a couple of screw drivers and lever the bolt whilst another try's turning the bolt .. slowly .. it may just catch

Posted: 22 Jul 2007, 22:55
by Hacksawbob

Posted: 22 Jul 2007, 23:26
by HarryMann
Try t'onions 2-pry-bars or 2 screwdrivers first, with three hands you should be able to get it to start some sort of thread action, even if partially crossed (its coming out anyway).. then I'm afraid its a helicoil or drill and retap to larger plug as WSLKR says

Posted: 23 Jul 2007, 08:29
by T'Onion
also markeymagicbus, fill your profile in , you could be next door to someone how maybe able to help :D

Posted: 23 Jul 2007, 09:12
by Dan Wood
Mine was held in with a rubber washer when I got the van!

Re-tapped, and now has the bigger frenchpoo bolt mentioned above.

(OK, so those that know me know that *I* didn't re-tap it, but somebody did it for me!)

Posted: 23 Jul 2007, 19:23
by markeymagicbus
thanks all

ive updated my profile , sorry should of done that earlier :shock:

ive tried to get some levers behind it but its recesed abit so that tricky

if it ever stops raining i might go out and drill it !!!!!

thank again all

Posted: 23 Jul 2007, 20:39
by wasserleaker
good luck with it, mate!

might be a stupid idea, but what about drilling it to just take a steel expanding anchor bolt/rawlbolt intended for masonry fixings, [about 10mm] and tightening that in there so you have a bit more to grab with the grips to apply a bit of downforce while you try to get it turning with a ring spanner? just a thought

Posted: 23 Jul 2007, 20:45
by markeymagicbus
good idea . 8)

will give a try tomorrow :D

if it stops bloody raining :shock: 8)

Posted: 23 Jul 2007, 23:52
by HarryMann
OR just Mig a bolt or bit of studding to it?

Posted: 04 Aug 2007, 08:32
by VeeDubster
wasserleaker wrote:the engine cases are split vertically and the sump plug thread is in one half of the pair, so you cant swap the sump for a good one if the thread is knackd, like you can with an air-cooled eng.
try gripping the bolt tightly with mole grips/self grip wrench and applying downward force as well as anti-clockwise [undo-ing] force and it may come out, then you'll need to rethread the hole bigger with a suitable thread cutting taper tap, and get an M16 x 1.5 renault sump plug, or helicoil insert it and re-use std. sump plug. [M14 X 1.5 MM Pitch, if i remember right.]
Morning, does anyone know which particular Renault's are fitted with this sump plug?

thanks

Rich