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Middle Rail Cut-Out Position. Early Slider
Posted: 02 Oct 2023, 23:04
by Robsey
Hi all, a very simple question.
I have been finally sorting the van's body work after procrastinating for about ten years.
I have separated what was left of the rail from the van.
The whole rail was a mass of shonky rust.
I have kept, and bead blasted the end plate.
The only option is to make a new rail as manufacturers have long since ceased to put the early runners on the van skin repair panels.
I have measured the rusty remnants, and come up with an 'ish' drawing.
There is meant to be a cut-out on the underside of the middle-runner rail, to allow the sliding door to be disengaged and re-engaged with the middle rail.
Does anyone have any dimensions for how high it goes, how wide, and how far from the front bracket.
Here is my quick sketch... it is not to scale, just my interpretation...

Re: Middle Rail Cut-Out Position. Early Slider
Posted: 03 Oct 2023, 06:05
by Rosie n' Jim
I need to Greece mine tonight, I'll take a photo and post it.
Re: Middle Rail Cut-Out Position. Early Slider
Posted: 03 Oct 2023, 06:09
by Robsey
Chears, that would be great.
It is very much appreciated

Re: Middle Rail Cut-Out Position. Early Slider
Posted: 03 Oct 2023, 07:18
by ZsZ
In the late rail the "cut-out" dent diameter is about 5mm larger than the middle roller bearing.
I assume the early was the same.
I hope somewhat helps.
Re: Middle Rail Cut-Out Position. Early Slider
Posted: 03 Oct 2023, 17:48
by Robsey
Cheers for the reply.
All information is useful and gratefully received.
The body repair manual and Bentley do not mention anything about the middle rail.
I am sure that I can make some educated guesses about the location and dimensions of the cut-out, but, seeing an example to replicate the panel would greatly reduce the chances of me making a dogs dinner of it.
Re: Middle Rail Cut-Out Position. Early Slider
Posted: 03 Oct 2023, 17:53
by Rosie n' Jim
Measured from the leading face of the stop plate.
Re: Middle Rail Cut-Out Position. Early Slider
Posted: 03 Oct 2023, 18:17
by Robsey
That is excellent...
Looking at that, I can guess-timate the following dimensions.
Cut-out / rebate height = approx 5mm
(1/2 the height of the rail.
Start of rebate = 555mm from the front plate.
Rear of rebate = 580mm from the front plate.
Hopefully that will help other repairers or restorers too.
For info....
Updated Slider-rail sketch.

Re: Middle Rail Cut-Out Position. Early Slider
Posted: 13 Oct 2023, 10:13
by Plasticman
I just made a new runner to go with the backing panal i make .i try find the picks
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Re: Middle Rail Cut-Out Position. Early Slider
Posted: 13 Oct 2023, 13:31
by Stesaw
Ive got a rail sitting on a body cut.... if you need one. not sure if its late or early though. Id assume Late as its from a D reg van.
Re: Middle Rail Cut-Out Position. Early Slider
Posted: 09 Jul 2024, 17:39
by Mk2mike89
Is someone on here making the early side runner ? As iv no idea how my door still opens and realy need a runner
Re: Middle Rail Cut-Out Position. Early Slider
Posted: 10 Jul 2024, 12:20
by Plasticman
I do them will post up later
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Re: Middle Rail Cut-Out Position. Early Slider
Posted: 10 Jul 2024, 18:54
by Mk2mike89
That would be amazing.
Re: Middle Rail Cut-Out Position. Early Slider
Posted: 10 Jul 2024, 19:40
by Plasticman
Have sent you a pm
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Re: Middle Rail Cut-Out Position. Early Slider
Posted: 10 Jul 2024, 22:38
by Plasticman