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Engine number confusion

Posted: 15 Aug 2023, 20:10
by Biggy
Hi Everyone,

I need a bit of help identifying my engine. I was under the impression I had a 1.6D CS, but after trying to find the engine number to determine if I had an early or late model I am slightly confused.

I was expecting to find a serial number beginning with CS followed by a six figure number, instead there is a nine figure number, as well as a circular stamp and an alloy plate glued to the engine with several numbers on it.

The van was originaly owned by the German fire brigade and used as a mini bus, until a friend bought it off them approx 10 years ago. They brought it over here when they came to work and sold it me. I don't know if it being previously owned by a Goverment body makes any difference to the codes, but thought it was worth mentioning.Image

Here are few photos of the serial numbers and plate.
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Any help would be appreciated

Thanks
 

Re: Engine number confusion

Posted: 15 Aug 2023, 20:33
by Oldiebut goodie
The engine no. is on the block not the head - roughly under the 3rd injector on a very rusty flat area.

Re: Engine number confusion

Posted: 15 Aug 2023, 20:41
by Biggy
Now I feel stupid!  :lol:

Thanks for the reply

Re: Engine number confusion

Posted: 15 Aug 2023, 21:07
by Biggy
It looks like the previous owner has made the same mistake when they imported the vehicle, as the nine digit number is down as the engine number on the V5.  :roll:

Correct engine number has been found, after a bit of scrubbing with a toothbrush. It looks like I have an 'early' 1.6CS

Thanks again for the help 

Re: Engine number confusion

Posted: 16 Aug 2023, 06:54
by silverbullet
Interesting logo on the badge! Looks like a leaping hare in a circle, might have been the head or engine remanufacture company. google lens is no help.

Re: Engine number confusion

Posted: 16 Aug 2023, 09:04
by R0B
Leaping hare? All I can see are numbers.

Re: Engine number confusion

Posted: 16 Aug 2023, 09:09
by ZsZ
R0B wrote: 16 Aug 2023, 09:04 Leaping hare? All I can see are numbers.

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From the numbers I assume it was done in september 2000

Re: Engine number confusion

Posted: 16 Aug 2023, 09:27
by R0B
Best get myself to specsavers.

Re: Engine number confusion

Posted: 16 Aug 2023, 10:07
by Biggy
I'm guessing because the van was in Germany at the time, it will be a German company. I tried the image search on Google as well but came up with nothing.

Re: Engine number confusion

Posted: 16 Aug 2023, 10:54
by ZsZ
They might be out of business or changed their logo since.

Re: Engine number confusion

Posted: 16 Aug 2023, 11:32
by R0B
Somewhat ironic using a hare on a 1.6 diesel. A tortoise would have been more appropriate. :D

Re: Engine number confusion

Posted: 16 Aug 2023, 12:08
by silverbullet
I asumed it was a hare, its a device commonly used by German (Vaillant) and other European companies, probably pagan in origin.

Re: Engine number confusion

Posted: 16 Aug 2023, 12:54
by ZsZ
It might be a roe or some other deer buck

Re: Engine number confusion

Posted: 17 Aug 2023, 12:57
by silverbullet
I still think its a hare ;) Here's a similar design.

https://www.waterstreetgallery.co.uk/en ... rs-61.html

Re: Engine number confusion

Posted: 27 Sep 2023, 14:29
by Simon Baxter
It's just the Vege logo.