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Brake splash plates

Posted: 25 Jan 2023, 19:08
by Vwjue73
Hi I've removed my badly corroded splash plates on the front, the screws are non existent and I can't drill them out .Do you think new ones would stay firmly fixed if they were JB welded on ? Just a thought, your reactions??? Thanks

Re: Brake splash plates

Posted: 25 Jan 2023, 19:40
by jrt
Have you tried a set of damaged screw extractors?
I’ve used them for knackered screws on my scooter but not the van. I haven’t got any front splash plates so maybe I should practice what I preach though :roll:
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David.

Re: Brake splash plates

Posted: 26 Jan 2023, 13:31
by silverbullet
jrt wrote: 25 Jan 2023, 19:40 Have you tried a set of damaged screw extractors?
I’ve used them for knackered screws on my scooter but not the van. I haven’t got any front splash plates so maybe I should practice what I preach though :roll:
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David.

Never ever use these "pooh" things! They are always glass hard and snap off as they expand the screw thet you will have previously drilled with a pilot hole.
Then you have a hard metal plug jammed into a suspension upright which will require spark eroding to remove. Tears and expense result.
Personally, I'd leave the guards off until you have to do a front end suspension job, then you can do the job properly and easier: drill out the screw remains, tap out the threads, reassemble.

Re: Brake splash plates

Posted: 26 Jan 2023, 13:59
by SyncroMatt
See above. My experience as well.

Re: Brake splash plates

Posted: 27 Jan 2023, 15:32
by mioba
I done this earlier this year. The old ones were like biscuits.

Best tool for these vans is a blow torch and plus gas when working on old bolts.

Heated mine.

Then a set of self locking pliers and the bolt was out.

Re: Brake splash plates

Posted: 27 Jan 2023, 15:35
by mioba
silverbullet wrote: 26 Jan 2023, 13:31
jrt wrote: 25 Jan 2023, 19:40 Have you tried a set of damaged screw extractors?
I’ve used them for knackered screws on my scooter but not the van. I haven’t got any front splash plates so maybe I should practice what I preach though :roll:
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David.

Never ever use these "pooh" things! They are always glass hard and snap off as they expand the screw thet you will have previously drilled with a pilot hole.
Then you have a hard metal plug jammed into a suspension upright which will require spark eroding to remove. Tears and expense result.
Personally, I'd leave the guards off until you have to do a front end suspension job, then you can do the job properly and easier: drill out the screw remains, tap out the threads, reassemble.

EXACTLY THAT.

If a head has sheared, there is no way a flimsy extractor will work.

I had one snap in a drilled hole - engineer job to get it out.

Plusgas and blow torch all the way for old bolts a few times/days before attempted removal

Re: Brake splash plates

Posted: 27 Jan 2023, 18:47
by jrt
I have only used them on screws with knackered heads and they worked brilliantly, I didn’t know the op had snapped the heads off whatever he was trying to remove.
Please ignore my bobbins advice 👍
David.

Re: Brake splash plates

Posted: 28 Jan 2023, 18:21
by silverbullet
If the screw heads are corroded or the Phillips/PZ drive is mangled, you will have more luck with a set of Irwin Nutbusters. Everyone should have a set in their toolkit.
Always heat and soak and heat and soak and heat before attempting old rusty bolt renoval.
As for glueing them on :rofl

Re: Brake splash plates

Posted: 28 Jan 2023, 20:50
by Vwjue73
Thanks for the advice everyone, silverbullet will a normal hss drill bit work on low speed?And what material are the stub axles made from ?I am really envious of your knowledge/engine builds etc by the way!thanks again