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Wipers work with no key in?

Posted: 01 Dec 2021, 15:05
by Shinnster
Doing little bits on the van today and took it for a spin to check all was ok.
it started to rain and luckily wipers work but I noticed when I turned the van off the wipers kept going.
they seem to be on a permanent live. is that how all these old vans are?

i use a battery disconnect switch so am not worried about any power drain, I just find it weird for them to be wired that way.
 

Re: Wipers work with no key in?

Posted: 01 Dec 2021, 18:28
by JeffRoo
Mines an 84 velle and the wipers don’t run unless key in 1st position. Maybe something there?

Re: Wipers work with no key in?

Posted: 01 Dec 2021, 19:03
by TONYT25T25
Like wise mine only work with the key turned, could be a safety issue ie inadvertantly operating them when not needed, does the blower motor work as I think they share the same fuse, could have been rewired as a result of a problem there.

Re: Wipers work with no key in?

Posted: 01 Dec 2021, 19:14
by Shinnster
I checked the blower and that only comes on when the key is turned. so something is a miss then!
not even sure where to start on this

i did replace the ignition switch with cheapish one off of ebay last month, but that wouldnt cause this would it?

Re: Wipers work with no key in?

Posted: 01 Dec 2021, 19:49
by Mocki
Maybe this will help you find the issue ?
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Re: Wipers work with no key in?

Posted: 01 Dec 2021, 20:09
by Shinnster
when it comes to electrics I'm even more of a noob than the mechanical side :(
removed the relay in number 10 and the wipers still work with the ignition off. (just the main speed)
from a quick bit of searching it seems when the wiper motor is failing / about to fail it can cause this issue and give constant power direct from the battery. something to do with the park position of the motor.

Re: Wipers work with no key in?

Posted: 01 Dec 2021, 21:07
by TONYT25T25
I would be inclined to not worry about it, as long as it works along with windscreen washers and has no dodgy wiring.  Maybe somebody did an intermittent wiper mod with a relay unless yours came with that as standard.  Also the blower should only come on with the ignition on so no issues there.

Re: Wipers work with no key in?

Posted: 01 Dec 2021, 23:20
by davidoft1
I think it could be a fault in the park mechanism