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I'm just about to get a new bus, but it has DF engine, my old one has DG

Is it easy to replace it with the DG? or any recommendations for upping the power of the DF?

wat horse power does a DG GIVE then DF IS 55hp aint it

simony wrote:wat horse power does a DG GIVE then DF IS 55hp aint it

DG = 78PS which I think is new fangled speak for BHP.

hi alex are u taking the engine out of creda 1? and putting it in creda 2?

possibly

Need to take Freda II for a drive first to see how it compares

I upgraded from DF (60bhp) to DG (78bhp) when my DF died.
The improvement is immense, but I suspect the DF was always a bit tired.
Swap is easy, use carb and manifold from DG rest is interchangeable.

It depends on which cooling system and exhaust you have as well - there is much more difference between early and late than between DF and DG and when I was considering using a DF as a quick replacement for a DG I decided not to bother as just about every hose and wire in the two vans I had was different. One thing that did help the DF (in fairly good nick so far as I could tell) was fitting a DG carb and inlet manifold, this meant changing the throttle cable and adding the hoses to heat the choke. Note that this is not the only difference between DF and DG - the DF had smaller valves for a start.

DF and DG will fit with either the early or the late cooling system, you just need to swap the plumbing bits between the blocks, if you are lucky the two lumps you are swapping will have been attached to the same cooling set up in which case you can swap them pipes and all. iirc the cooling system changed around 1985. The only difference is that choke on the Pierberg carb on the DG is plumbed into the cooling system, but not a big deal to sort out.

I think either exhaust set up will fit around either plumbing system but do not know for sure, I'm told later exhaust set up gives more bhp but I guess you will be swapping lump and exhaust together for an easy life....

all the 4cylinder WBX engines are interchangeable, the watery bits swap round, as do the zorsts, the heads are not sided, so changing between early and late only means the water goes the other way round, bit like aussie plug holes and ours !!

i take it that the same goes for a 2.1 as i have a df and also cant live with 60 bhp and 230,000 miles!

yep, 2.1 will fit, but you will need a DG carb is you are not going to use the FI

Isn't there a longevity issue when using 2.1 with carb rather than FI? That's what I wanted to do originally

cant answer that ive only been doing it since 2004 and 66000 miles

ill let you know in 5or 6 years

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Excellent advice think I might hang on for DJ and have a bit of extra oomph