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What a difference a gearbox oil change makes
Posted: 17 Aug 2020, 19:08
by Paul773car
Just for anyone who doesn't know when theirs was last changed. My advice is do it. I can't believe how much better the change feels. Smoother into all gears no synchro mesh click even on quick changes its like a different car. Now to be fair what came out looked pretty nasty so I suppose the difference you will notice will depend on how bad and old your current oil is but I am amazed by the difference new oil makes.
Word of warning make sure you can undo the filler plug before you undo the drain plug. Mine was a real struggle to get out.
Re: What a difference a gearbox oil change makes
Posted: 17 Aug 2020, 20:06
by King Kenny
Thanks for that. I have never checked my gearbox oil in the ten years I have owned the van so I guess it is well overdue. I will put it on the Urgent to Do list.

What oil did you use?
Re: What a difference a gearbox oil change makes
Posted: 17 Aug 2020, 20:27
by TONYT25T25
Did mine last month, need to dispose of the old stuff at the local council recycling centre, as my garage smells like, well like a garage.
Re: What a difference a gearbox oil change makes
Posted: 17 Aug 2020, 20:30
by Paul773car
Comma EP80/90 GL4
From halfords. Sure you can get it cheaper but I had to replace a drive seal so needed it quick. Make sure you get GL4, not GL5 as apparently GL5 isn't good for old boxes designed for GL4.
Re: What a difference a gearbox oil change makes
Posted: 17 Aug 2020, 20:31
by Paul773car
TONYT25T25 wrote: ↑17 Aug 2020, 20:27
Did mine last month, need to dispose of the old stuff at the local council recycling centre, as my garage smells like, well like a garage.
It really stinks doesn't it. Mines in the garage too and the other half isn't happy. Council tip at the weekend for me too

Re: What a difference a gearbox oil change makes
Posted: 18 Aug 2020, 17:47
by Dazco
Something I need to do on mine , how much did it take to fill it up ?
Thanks
Re: What a difference a gearbox oil change makes
Posted: 18 Aug 2020, 20:37
by TONYT25T25
I believe it depends on the gearbox fitted, mine is a 4 speed and according to the Haynes manual 3.5L. When emptying my box I poured the remains into an old oil container and it measure about the same. However when removing the gearbox oil filler plug before renewing the oil, some dripped out, but I was not on perfectly flat ground, so hope I put the same amount back in, I also used some of the new oil to flush out any debris, ie left the drain plug off then added a bit of the new stuff, then replaced the drain plug and poured new stuff in.
Re: What a difference a gearbox oil change makes
Posted: 18 Aug 2020, 21:34
by Dazco
Good idea

Re: What a difference a gearbox oil change makes
Posted: 19 Aug 2020, 21:21
by crazyhorse
I tried to do this, but for the life of me couldnt get the filler plug off. Nightmare. Any ideas??
Re: What a difference a gearbox oil change makes
Posted: 19 Aug 2020, 23:27
by Dazco
If memory serves me right it's an Allen key screw , could you get the key into the hole? Tried using a long breaker bar? Do when the gearbox is warm, use plus gas for a few days prior to trying.
Re: What a difference a gearbox oil change makes
Posted: 20 Aug 2020, 08:34
by TONYT25T25
Mine was a pain also, I used a normal ratchet wrench with a small extension, because of the difficulty in getting a purchase on it I used my trolley jack and gently raised the wrench at the same time keeping the ratchet in line with the socket and plug if I remember correctly. Correction to my last I used the trolley jack method to undo the drain plug, to remove the filler plug I turned it as if tightening it up which moved it a bit and then the opposite direction doing this to and fro a few times and the plug eventually was completely undone.
Re: What a difference a gearbox oil change makes
Posted: 20 Aug 2020, 20:37
by crazyhorse
cheers guys, have the key, but like you say no room as the gear selector is in the way, can i undo that??
Re: What a difference a gearbox oil change makes
Posted: 21 Aug 2020, 08:21
by TONYT25T25
Mine is a four speed and although tight you can get the filler plug socket in with a small extension bar without having to remove any gear linkages. As an after thought maybe selecting a particular gear may give better access but unsure how much this moves the rod in order to do so.
Re: What a difference a gearbox oil change makes
Posted: 21 Aug 2020, 09:43
by crazyhorse
TONYT25T25 wrote: ↑21 Aug 2020, 08:21
Mine is a four speed and although tight you can get the filler plug socket in with a small extension bar without having to remove any gear linkages. As an after thought maybe selecting a particular gear may give better access but unsure how much this moves the rod in order to do so.
Good idea, will give it a go...
Re: What a difference a gearbox oil change makes
Posted: 21 Aug 2020, 14:37
by Paul773car
Rather than having the socket ratchet hanging below the gearbox I did mine from above with the arm of the breaker bar pointing upwards and to the rear. This gave me enough space to put a small bar over the end to give me a bit of extra torque. As it's high you're pulling down on it too which is always easier.