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I want headlights like a Scandinavian...
Posted: 10 May 2019, 10:43
by T25Convert
Off on a three week driving tour of Finland in the van.
Its mandatory to use dipped headlights all the time, with alleged fines if I don't (and knowing my luck driving abroad I will get stopped!) I also need to retain parking light functionality.
Is there an easy mod to make the dipped beams come on with the ignition rather than just leave a sign on the dash that I can ignore after the second day?!
It looks like I just pop terminal 56 off the light switch, then give it a suitable live with ignition feed (that is off when cranking) and I'll have dipped headlights on with ignition. I'd then need to switch headlight switch to dipped beam if I want headlight main beam latching to work.
Have I got this right do people think?
Re: I want headlights like a Scandinavian...
Posted: 10 May 2019, 13:44
by 937carrera
That was apparently a nice simple question.
How about this suggestion
Run a link wire from connection X on the back of the switch to terminal 56. Terminal X is only live when in the engine run position, and as you have identified terminal 56 is for the headlights.
Use the same heavy gauge wire as the original wiring. I'll let others suggest ways of physically making the connection.....
Re: I want headlights like a Scandinavian...
Posted: 10 May 2019, 15:40
by T25Convert
Thanks - I've just been looking at the wiring diagrams again and as you note this is an easy source of the +12v feed. I get worried about these little wiring projects, like a bit of reassurance!
Jointing wise I'll just strip off a little insulation and solder on - I have yet to find a more secure way of joining cables in small spaces.
If anyone knows a better way please do speak up!!
Re: I want headlights like a Scandinavian...
Posted: 10 May 2019, 15:48
by 937carrera
If you used a fuseholder as the connector, then you could simply insert / remove the fuse for Scandi /UK wiring. That's what Saabs have
https://www.12voltplanet.co.uk/inline-s ... older.html
For another quid you can even have a built in LED
Let the debate on connection methods commence
Re: I want headlights like a Scandinavian...
Posted: 10 May 2019, 16:00
by T25Convert
937carrera wrote:If you used a fuseholder as the connector, then you could simply insert / remove the fuse for UK /Scandi wiring. That's what Saabs have
https://www.12voltplanet.co.uk/inline-s ... older.html
For another quid you can even have a built in LED
Let the debate on connection methods commence
Legend.
That's a nice easy way to have a connection that I can disable easily and safely in the future.
I'll E D I T the bit above and say I'm using scotchlocks, that should liven things up

Re: I want headlights like a Scandinavian...
Posted: 10 May 2019, 17:08
by Wychall
My only concern would be whether there was a back feed problem such that applying the ignition feed to the headlight switch would also cause the sidelights to come on. I haven't checked a wiring diagram to be able to decide either way.
Re: I want headlights like a Scandinavian...
Posted: 24 May 2019, 07:05
by T25Convert
Just to complete the thread, I can confirm that making a fused connection between terminals X and 56 on the rear of the switch gives me dipped beam headlights when the ignition is on, and the headlight switch operates as it should. No unexpected back feeding or other unintended consequences.
Re: I want headlights like a Scandinavian...
Posted: 24 May 2019, 07:34
by captain Byrne
I've travelled a lot in Scandinavia including Finland last Year. I guarantee you will not get stopped or fined if you don't put your lights on. The worst that will happen is that you may get flashed once or twice if you forget. I have a brightly coloured notice saying "LIGHTS" on the dash, so whenever I start the van I see the sign & turn them on. Simple.
Re: I want headlights like a Scandinavian...
Posted: 24 May 2019, 07:50
by T25Convert
captain Byrne wrote:I've travelled a lot in Scandinavia including Finland last Year. I guarantee you will not get stopped or fined if you don't put your lights on. The worst that will happen is that you may get flashed once or twice if you forget. I have a brightly coloured notice saying "LIGHTS" on the dash, so whenever I start the van I see the sign & turn them on. Simple.
I agree for most it is low risk, but I seem to attract attention. On my last long eurpean trip I was stopped and searched by pretty much every local police force and border staff, so I'm feeling a bit twitchy!
Re: I want headlights like a Scandinavian...
Posted: 24 May 2019, 08:11
by captain Byrne
Fair enough. Enjoy Finland, it's fantastic!
Re: I want headlights like a Scandinavian...
Posted: 24 May 2019, 22:03
by 937carrera
T25Convert wrote:Just to complete the thread, I can confirm that making a fused connection between terminals X and 56 on the rear of the switch gives me dipped beam headlights when the ignition is on, and the headlight switch operates as it should. No unexpected back feeding or other unintended consequences.
Thanks for posting back, reading a wiring diagram and figuring out a solution is one thing, nothing like doing it in practice
