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Early van / electrics, intermittent wiper relay?
Posted: 01 Aug 2018, 19:20
by bmouthboyo
Hi Guys,
I have an early 83 van, originally a DG which has the old electrics with ceramic fuses etc.
Is it possible to easily upgrade the wipers so they run from a times relay?
Thanks
Re: Early van / electrics, intermittent wiper relay?
Posted: 01 Aug 2018, 19:53
by shepster
Yes, however it's a bit more complicated than on the later vans.
There is a guide somewhere but not sure where, which isn't really much help.
You will still need the appropriate relay plus a bit of additional wiring but still not that hard.
Re: Early van / electrics, intermittent wiper relay?
Posted: 01 Aug 2018, 20:11
by Cobra88
Mine is a late 84 but F coded 85 model and has int wipe
I have ceramic fuses too
Re: Early van / electrics, intermittent wiper relay?
Posted: 01 Aug 2018, 20:25
by bmouthboyo
Cobra88 wrote:Mine is a late 84 but F coded 85 model and has int wipe
I have ceramic fuses too
Interesting. I thought the early vans did not have relays controlling the wipers?
Re: Early van / electrics, intermittent wiper relay?
Posted: 01 Aug 2018, 20:50
by petethefeet
Hi,
I have done this upgrade, quite easy it is detailed in Wiki under VW Electrics (not camper interior specific).
I managed to get a proper VW relay socket so I could plug it in, one issue was finding the electrical crimp connections for the small spade connectors on the relay.
All fitted inside the cowling around the steering column.
Re: Early van / electrics, intermittent wiper relay?
Posted: 01 Aug 2018, 21:13
by bigherb
You just have to wire it up yourself, Posistion 5 in the fusebox is for the relay.

Re: Early van / electrics, intermittent wiper relay?
Posted: 02 Aug 2018, 20:25
by bmouthboyo
bigherb wrote:You just have to wire it up yourself, Posistion 5 in the fusebox is for the relay.

Even in an early van with early ceramic fuses that never had it as standard? Why do some people add a relay to the steering column if there is space in the relay fusebox? Sorry still not learnt what my relays currently do as doesn't seem to be many diagrams online for early vans.
Re: Early van / electrics, intermittent wiper relay?
Posted: 02 Aug 2018, 20:43
by petethefeet
From memory fitting the relay into the steering column limits the length of wire runs. If it is fitted into the fuse box area you need to run the wires to and from the steering column.
Re: Early van / electrics, intermittent wiper relay?
Posted: 02 Aug 2018, 20:50
by bigherb
bmouthboyo wrote:
Even in an early van with early ceramic fuses that never had it as standard?
Yep

Re: Early van / electrics, intermittent wiper relay?
Posted: 02 Aug 2018, 21:21
by bmouthboyo
bigherb wrote:bmouthboyo wrote:
Even in an early van with early ceramic fuses that never had it as standard?
Yep

Legend thank you for that. I understand now, the relay isnt wired but space ready for it. I will need to cut and splice wires as per the wiki.
Thanks
Re: Early van / electrics, intermittent wiper relay?
Posted: 03 Aug 2018, 12:32
by shepster
And don't forget to remove the white plastic thing which allows the stalk to move into the intermittent position (down).
Depending on which relay you end up with the wipers will sweep a few times when the 'wash' function is used, I think there is a programmable relay as well to alter the time lapse between wipes.
Re: Early van / electrics, intermittent wiper relay?
Posted: 03 Aug 2018, 16:03
by crazyhorse
bmouthboyo wrote:Hi Guys,
I have an early 83 van, originally a DG which has the old electrics with ceramic fuses etc.
Is it possible to easily upgrade the wipers so they run from a times relay?
Thanks
Have a spare relay if you want it??
Re: Early van / electrics, intermittent wiper relay?
Posted: 03 Aug 2018, 17:28
by nevill3
I too have the early wiring and placed my relay in the correct position

Re: Early van / electrics, intermittent wiper relay?
Posted: 15 Mar 2025, 23:13
by Jay Goll
Hi,
I’m going to upgrade to the intermittent relay on my 82 Aircooled.
Am I missing something, I’ve been looking at the circuit diagram and I’m confused with the connections to the wiper motor it seems there’s 5 connections on the diagram, anyone shed any light on that, I tried to find the original wiring diagram without the relay to compare to no avail..
Thanks
J