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1.7 Diesel Exhaust

Posted: 30 Jul 2017, 22:10
by The Hairy Camper
My (1984) 1.7 diesel exhaust down pipe is goosed. I've had a look online and all i can find 1.6 and 1.6TD replacements.

Anyone know where i can find a decent one?

This one looks like it's the wrong year:
http://www.justkampers.com/033-251-171- ... -1992.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Cheers.

Re: 1.7 Diesel Exhaust

Posted: 30 Jul 2017, 22:37
by keytouch
Look on this page

https://www.brickwerks.co.uk/t3-parts/e ... ?limit=100" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: 1.7 Diesel Exhaust

Posted: 31 Jul 2017, 14:42
by Scottish Motorsport
Hi,
If its any help i got my down pipe from Just Kampers for my 1985 the one shown in the link. (Engine KY 1.7d)

Cheers

Re: 1.7 Diesel Exhaust

Posted: 31 Jul 2017, 15:35
by Oldiebut goodie
Odd - the KY is listed as starting in Oct 1986!

1.7 R4 D 42kW
identification
parts code prefix: ???, ID code: KY
engine configuration & engine displacement
inline-four engine (R4/I4); 1,716 cubic centimetres (104.7 cu in); bore x stroke: 79.5 by 86.4 millimetres (3.13 in × 3.40 in), stroke ratio: 0.92:1 - undersquare/long-stroke, 428.9 cc per cylinder, compression ratio: 23.0:1
cylinder block & crankcase
grey cast iron; five main bearings
cylinder head & valvetrain
two valves per cylinder, 8 valves total, hydraulic valve-clearance compensation, timing belt-driven single overhead camshaft (SOHC)
aspiration
cast aluminium alloy intake manifold, cast iron exhaust manifold
fuel system
timing belt-driven Bosch mechanical distributor injection pump, indirect fuel injection into whirl chamber
DIN-rated motive power & torque output
42 kilowatts (57 PS; 56 bhp) @ 4,500 rpm; 103 newton metres (76 lbf·ft) @ 2,800 rpm
application
Volkswagen Type 2 10/86-5/92

Re: 1.7 Diesel Exhaust

Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 20:47
by The Hairy Camper
I am confused now then.

My van has the 1.7D stamp on the side of the engine (i've got a picture but i don't know how to upload), but i just got under the van and i'm sure it has the 1.6 exhaust on it??

It looks exactly like this one (which i just noticed says 1600-1700 in the web url thing, but not the description):
http://www.justkampers.com/vw-t25-parts ... -1987.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Is my Van a KY?? Or was there another version then??

Cheers.

Re: 1.7 Diesel Exhaust

Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 21:14
by Oldiebut goodie
What's your location? I have a used 1.6 silencer and maybe downpipe going spare if you have the 1.6 system. Maybe someone has used a 1.6 manifold ( if that is possible - I know that the 1.7 head is slightly different).
Use http://www.techpowerup.org to upload the pic.

Re: 1.7 Diesel Exhaust

Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 23:02
by The Hairy Camper
Cheers oldie. I'm based in the north west. Silencer is in good condition apparently?

Where it connects to the engine:
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Comes down and bends round (unlike 1986 1.7 exhaust??.) Ignore metal clamps, this was some recent welding/bodging to stop it falling apart for the moment.
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Joins silencer.
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1.7 Stamp.
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Re: 1.7 Diesel Exhaust

Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 23:27
by Oldiebut goodie
That certainly looks like a 1.6 system to me! And a 1.7 block! Can't remember what the 1.6 exhaust manifold looked like now and can't check as someone had it.
Are you friendly with Dr. Frankenstein by any chance? :D

Re: 1.7 Diesel Exhaust

Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 23:56
by The Hairy Camper
Well i'm glad i used my eyes before i ordered anything online!

So i guess the question is if early (pre 1986) 1.7 diesel engines came with the 1.6 exhaust system? A phone call to just kampers tomorrow may solve this!

I sincerely hope my van has not been tinkered with by a "Dr Frankenstein"!

Re: 1.7 Diesel Exhaust

Posted: 02 Aug 2017, 10:33
by The Hairy Camper
So i rang just kampers this morning and they basically said the same as you oldie. That the 1.7 didn't come out until 86. They do think i have the 1.6 exhaust though (down pipe and silencer).

I guess it is possible that the engine could have been swopped to a 1.7 at some point? Would the CS/1.6 exhaust still fit properly that way?

The van is registered as a 1.7, but i suppose this could have been done after a swop.

Re: 1.7 Diesel Exhaust

Posted: 02 Aug 2017, 12:13
by Oldiebut goodie
This is what is sitting in my shed:

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The silencer is 24" long, I expect it to be the same as you have on there, ( excluding stub) tailpipe is welded to it, hardly any use at all.
For checking Hermes prices ( 8kg the lot) - pm me your postcode. You can have the lot for the cost of the postage if you want it. ( should be in the region of £6 -£10)

I thought that the 1.7 pipework was slightly bigger than the 1.6 but am not sure. Outside diameter of this is 40mm for the downpipe and 44/45mm for the tailpipe. Manifold end - stud spacing, holes are 50mm apart.

Any help?

Re: 1.7 Diesel Exhaust

Posted: 02 Aug 2017, 13:22
by The Hairy Camper
That looks like the one! I just measured the silencer and it's the same length! Happy to try it out for the price of postage Oldie :D Cheers for being a top bloke.

Do you reckon my van started life as a 1.6 then??

Will PM you now.

Re: 1.7 Diesel Exhaust

Posted: 03 Aug 2017, 18:43
by nevill3
I have recently used http://www.vw-mplate.com/mcode.php to decifer the M -Codes that appear on your vehicle tag/vin code label. I found my little white sticker on the cross-member under the steering wheel.

It listed all the options that were included when the van was manufactured including the engine, trim spec even the exact date of manufacture and the port in the Uk that it came in at.

Re: 1.7 Diesel Exhaust

Posted: 03 Aug 2017, 19:19
by The Hairy Camper
Thanks nevill, i may give that a go.

How accurate/legitimate is the website you listed?

Re: 1.7 Diesel Exhaust

Posted: 03 Aug 2017, 19:42
by nevill3
I do not know legitimate they are but the data they provided me matches other searches online that I have done in the past, especially the Brickwerks Vin number decoder. The website has been registered since 2009 and is very slick.

Brickwerks version......https://www.brickwerks.co.uk/t3selector