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Hello

I have done a search and I can find a few bits about various relays but no definitive diagram labelling all the sockets / relays and what they can be used for, can anyone help please.
Below is a photo of my fuse box, different layout of relays to others I have seen in threads and on some the relays are in different places or are not there at all...confused dot com


any help much appreciated, irishkeet

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Many Thanks Bigherb, thats exactly what I was looking for

but it also leave me wondering what is missing or in the incorrect place, can anyone help with this please?

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location 03 - relay 43 - Coolant Level - relay 43 in place

Location 05 - relay 24 - Radiator Fan - Missing

Location 06 - relay 53 - Dual Horn - Missing

Location 07 - relay 15 - Fog Light - I have relay 53 in this position?

Location 08 - relay 17 - relief for X contact - I have relay 17 and no idea what relief from X contact is

Location 10 - relay 17 - Intermittent Wiper - Understand I can also replace with relay 99

Location 11 - relay 20 - Rear wash / wipe - I have relay 72? van used to have a rear wiper, not now so I guess this could be removed?

Location 12 - relay 22 - trailer turn signal - Relay 22 in place

cheers
irishkeet

Depends on the spec of the van.

X contact relay is the relay that switches off the wipers and heater etc (but not the headlamps) when you start the engine.

53 is just a standard 4 terminal relay which is why it has been used in the fog lamp position.

Fan relay depends on engine, high output 450/500W fans have the relay mounted on the A post above the fuse box.

Location 05 - relay 23 -> only present on 200/300W blower. On TDs and DJ the 450/500W fan has the relay on the A pillar with a 50A fuse
Location 06 - dual horn -> you need it when the factory dual horn setup is present (like on ambulances) It gives power to the L connector outlet on the back of the fuse box
Location 07 - fog light, 53 is standard 40A relay -> if you have the factory fog light wiring then it may work. AFAIK rear fog lights were standard on UK sold/registered vans. It gives power to pin 20 on connector B on the back side of fusebox when the ignition is on B20 is giving power to fog light switch -> if the factory wiring is missing then it is easier to make an independent fog light circuit, but you can use a wiring diagram to repro the original
Location 08 - X contact relay -> X contact line is a power line similar to ignition, but loses power while cranking. Usually high power consumers (eg. lights) are connected E D I T: Bigherb is right lights are ON
Location 10 - wiper -> yes, 99 is plug and play
Location 11 - rear wiper -> both 72 and 20 are rear wiper relays I think the 72 is a newer model if you can remove it if you have no rear wiper

Here is a list of VW-audi relays and their codes and partnrs:
http://www.doppel-wobber.de/forum/threa ... ungen.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It is german, so you may have to use google translate to the description, but the partnr references are international

bigherb wrote:Depends on the spec of the van.

X contact relay is the relay that switches off the wipers and heater etc (but not the headlamps) when you start the engine.

53 is just a standard 4 terminal relay which is why it has been used in the fog lamp position.

Fan relay depends on engine, high output 450/500W fans have the relay mounted on the A post above the fuse box.

Cheers Bigherb

The van was originally a Caravelle (heated rear screen with wiper), it now has westy double glazing.

with Location 07 - relay 15 - Fog Light - is this front or rear fogs? The rear fog lights work fine.

Will Location 06 - relay 53 - Dual Horn - give me a different horn sound?

Fan relay depends on engine, high output 450/500W fans have the relay mounted on the A post above the fuse box

Would this be the relay you mean?




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irishkeet

irishkeet wrote:
with Location 07 - relay 15 - Fog Light - is this front or rear fogs? The rear fog lights work fine.

It powers the switch so does rear and front if fitted.

irishkeet wrote:
Will Location 06 - relay 53 - Dual Horn - give me a different horn sound?

No unless you fit dual note horns.

irishkeet wrote:

Fan relay depends on engine, high output 450/500W fans have the relay mounted on the A post above the fuse box

Would this be the relay you mean?



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irishkeet

Yes

massive thanks to bigherb & ZsZ for you help with clearing that up