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Sleeve on fuel pipes? (and now fuel savers)
Posted: 30 Dec 2016, 13:11
by itchyfeet
On a 2.1 injection there are plastic sleeves on the fuel pipes in the engine bay
I have never seen them on a 1.9 carb.
Anybody know the purpose?
I'd have thought they make it harder to inspect pipes.
If they are heat resistant then why does a 1.9 not need them?
thanks
Re: Sleeve on fuel pipes?
Posted: 30 Dec 2016, 13:22
by Oldiebut goodie
To prevent expansion under pressure (the pipes may get softened with engine heat)? Only thing that I can think of offhand. Do the injections run at higher psi after the pump compared to the carb models?
Re: Sleeve on fuel pipes?
Posted: 30 Dec 2016, 13:31
by itchyfeet
Yes higher pressure I think but these sleeves are loose so not for expansion I'd think
Re: Sleeve on fuel pipes?
Posted: 30 Dec 2016, 13:36
by Oldiebut goodie
Only other possible reason then is preventing chafing by wires/pipes but they wouldn't stay in the required position being loose. Another VW mystery.

Re: Sleeve on fuel pipes?
Posted: 30 Dec 2016, 13:46
by itchyfeet
could be chaffing, anybody know for sure?

Re: Sleeve on fuel pipes?
Posted: 30 Dec 2016, 16:35
by MGP
It could be to stop chaffing or possibly to help protect from touching anything hot but I would be more inclined to think that it is there because in the event of a pinhole developing in a hose, with a fuel pressure of over 3 bar you would end up with a very fine mist of fuel filling the engine bay, at least with the conduit over the hoses the fine mist would be contained.
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Re: Sleeve on fuel pipes?
Posted: 30 Dec 2016, 17:32
by dumbo
Itchy what are the 2x inline fuel things for??
not see them before thanks
Simon
Re: Sleeve on fuel pipes?
Posted: 30 Dec 2016, 17:37
by itchyfeet
dumbo wrote:Itchy what are the 2x inline fuel things for??
not see them before thanks
Simon
No idea I was given this, says fuel saver so maybe a filter.
Re: Sleeve on fuel pipes?
Posted: 30 Dec 2016, 17:38
by itchyfeet
MGP wrote:It could be to stop chaffing or possibly to help protect from touching anything hot but I would be more inclined to think that it is there because in the event of a pinhole developing in a hose, with a fuel pressure of over 3 bar you would end up with a very fine mist of fuel filling the engine bay, at least with the conduit over the hoses the fine mist would be contained.
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Good suggestion.
Re: Sleeve on fuel pipes?
Posted: 30 Dec 2016, 17:39
by dumbo
ok just never see before cheers mate

Re: Sleeve on fuel pipes?
Posted: 30 Dec 2016, 20:18
by itchyfeet
dumbo wrote:ok just never see before cheers mate

here is a close up

Re: Sleeve on fuel pipes?
Posted: 30 Dec 2016, 20:21
by itchyfeet
MGP wrote:It could be to stop chaffing or possibly to help protect from touching anything hot but I would be more inclined to think that it is there because in the event of a pinhole developing in a hose, with a fuel pressure of over 3 bar you would end up with a very fine mist of fuel filling the engine bay, at least with the conduit over the hoses the fine mist would be contained.
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this pic of a DJ engine bay shows a pipe unsleeved which implies pin hole spray is not the reason

Re: Sleeve on fuel pipes?
Posted: 30 Dec 2016, 20:25
by R0B
Fuel save.Snake oil more like :-)I'm suprised you have not come across one of those before.
Re: Sleeve on fuel pipes?
Posted: 30 Dec 2016, 20:28
by itchyfeet
Rob, you have a 2.1, do you have the sleeves or are they long gone?
Re: Sleeve on fuel pipes?
Posted: 30 Dec 2016, 20:57
by slowcoach
itchyfeet wrote:could be chaffing, anybody know for sure?

Heat sleeves I believe, had them on my 1.9 injection on the hoses across the top of the block. Not imperative but keep them on if you have them I'd guess. Can be a nightmare to thread the fuel hose through them when they're old and pinched though [DISAPPOINTED BUT RELIEVED FACE]