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Hi All,


still deliberating which way to go with regards to what lump to stick in my van,

So i want to know list of items needed for this set up and which donor car would be best to buy?(the cross flow or the block)

(I Think) I want to run a AGG/2E block with a cross flow head running twin 40's?

Which cross flow is best?

What parts will i need to fit this? T25 diesel bell housing? Mounts and sump?

Can anyone confirm and add to list?

Thanks in advance peeps

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Because the engine would be canted over in a T25, you would need a custom inlet manifold to get the carbs horizontal.

Was looking at this a couple of years ago- thread on the yard somewhere.

As far as I can remember you need an ABA head from the US ( can't remember if any mk4 heads fit) , some machining to head/block.

I guess it will have to go at 15' if on carbs. You got a pick up or full bodied variant?

Have a look on thesamba and see if anyone has ever run TBs maybe?

have a mooch at bike carbs too - lots done with the golf boys lot of bang for your buck!

hmmmm bike carbs!! i think thats the way forward!! im guessing as how they are fitted originally on the bike the engine angle shouldnt matter as it will be a panel van its going in

just need to start a list of whats needed

so far from what ive worked out, get a MK3 2.0 8v golf gti as the donor car?

then to fit this engine i will need

T25 Diesel bell housing?
T25 Diesel Starter?
T25 Diesel Sump?
T25 Diesel Engine mounts?

Then to modify the engine to specs i want i need..

ABA head? or possibly another Crossflow head (heard new shape beetle ones fit?
Bike carbs
Custom made inlet
Fuel pump? possibly use the one off the bike?


Can anybody add or E D I T the list above or any other comment?

What clutch do i need?
What head gasket set do i use?


any comments welcome

i'd rock any 2.0 bottom end and fit a pb head to it - elvis will tell you to cam it - others will mention polish and match porting the list is endless really..... you could spend a fortune and ruin it all by not having the gearbox r&p altered. a flipped audi box seems a lot of hassle to me - never ending problems there although cheap! h/d jx clutch should work until you hit big power and a dj pump and fuel pressure regulator (fpr) most bikes that have pumps have fuel injection for the throttle bodies and i dont think you want to go down that route!

think it was bogg-bros who made the inlets? easily copied and made out of steel plate and tube to get shapes and angles sorted

rowlesy wrote:i'd rock any 2.0 bottom end and fit a pb head to it

Is the Pb head a straightforward plug & play?

Is this the head from a 1,8 8v ADZ, searching for VW pb head over here brings no results.

It's not chap. Need matching inlet manifold then you lose TPS so have to adapt manifold etc etc

Have never found any facts or figures to confirm/deny PB head is any better or not. Those in the know appear to think it arrives from the fact people put a 2l block in a mk2, have to use the mk2(PB) head and injection/wiring then over time it's become folklore that the reason the heads kept as it's better..

Difference in valve sizes is very negligible (think PB have marginally bigger exhaust valve by 00.xxmm or something silly but Mk3s have 7mm v 8mm valve stems so less restriction (but we are talking 115bhp road engines v F1 so doubt it makes a difference.

Head and cam bruddah, head and cam........

Did you ever get to the bottom of the ADY v AGG ? Seen CR differs but everything else mechanical appears to be the same. AGG makes peak torque 600rpm lower than ADY. Maybe it might be worth going down AGG ECU route?

The only differences that I have found are:
Better Euro class of 2 instead of 1.
Higher comp
Max Torque at 3200 for the ADY, AGG 2800
The crankcase breather system is better and there is a pick up for the rev counter.

I now have a Golf AGG ECU in mine along with the Golf throttle body, it has a more aggressive drive.
The ADY setup feels more elastic and is better for long holiday cruises.

I think I'll go the down the head/cam route just like you (maybe even buy the head from the same man).