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CV joints and some VW wheel trims if you want

Posted: 16 Jan 2007, 18:02
by Jeremy
Hello All,

I've had my Syncro Campervan for just over a year. I think that calls for a celebration :D

Over this time I've got to know parts of the vehicle I didn't ever expect to know, and this recently includes the front outer CV joints.

I wanted to thank Syncrospares for his help over the phone and offer of second hand parts but I found a new one from http://www.partsinabox.co.uk/ who actually list the VW Syncro for £50 including P&P and VAT.

Fitted and it works a treat, it's never been so quiet. You guys probably know all this already but, just in case you didn't, they are available new. (can't get them from VW - I did ask).

All the best,

Jeremy.

PS. As I've fitted 15" wheels to the van the original 14" VW trims are just rattling around in the shed - put them on ebay but if anyone wants them just let me know - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... B:EF:UK:11

Posted: 16 Jan 2007, 18:40
by sonic23
Hi Jeremy,
I've just ordered 2 outers myself from these guys, as I've got this job to do. I was looking at Bentley and see that a ring needs to be pressed onto the ends (pt no 251 407 328) .

I was just wondering if you fitted the rings (yourself (did you reuse or buy new?) - or did you take them to someone to get pressed on to the cvs?

cheers,
Rich

Posted: 16 Jan 2007, 20:55
by toomanytoys
thats a very good price, what make are they marked with on the unit itself?

Posted: 16 Jan 2007, 22:13
by Jeremy
Ah now two questions I'm not qualified to answer, but I'll give it a go! I'm on good terms with a local garage (that happens when you get a syncro I think) with the deal that if I got the parts they would fit them. So Rich, I have no idea about these rings! I trust it's all there...

toomanytoys, the cv joint I am pretty sure is made by Interparts - their website http://www.interparts.eu.com/

Jeremy.

Posted: 16 Jan 2007, 22:24
by HarryMann
Those ring seals are NLA from VW, but Aidan (Beaker) had the last ones from the OEM and might have a few left (funds eventually go to the Syncronauts, thanks to Aidan) or can supply a slightly different alternative that doesn't require the steel support ring for the seal.

See his photo-article, linked from the Wiki...

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/aidan.talbot/V-RingSeals/

These are to prevent water getting behind the bearing during wading.

Sometimes they come in the CVJ kit, sometimes not... believe SyncroSam managed to get some when he did his.

Would be a good idea to ask if these did come in the box with the CVJ, and I'd say its a 50/50 chance that they were fitted even if they were in the box... for various reasons :)

NB. The boots have to be glued onto the CVJ at one end!

Wiki on Syncros

Posted: 16 Jan 2007, 22:32
by toomanytoys
Didnt Syncrosam get his from GKN? Maybe they still supply then in there kits..
Would be very good to know if they come in the kits from wherever..
I have to get a pair too..

Posted: 16 Jan 2007, 22:35
by Jeremy
HarryMann, thanks for the advice. I had no idea... If these things aren't fitted a) is it easy to spot, and b) does it really matter?

Posted: 16 Jan 2007, 22:57
by syncropaddy
there seems to bo two types for mine. which one do i buy?

Posted: 17 Jan 2007, 01:23
by HarryMann
CVJ?

Then the difference is usually the boot kit... early or late I think, for boot kits the split is...

Up to Ch. No 24-K-11905977 use 25149820 A
After Ch. No 24-K-11905978 use 25149820 F

If you mean the Interparts ones, then haven't the foggiest..

But if you're buying a complete outer CVJ I'd say just get the latest Rev. as long as they are a complete unit, as yours is a late model.
AFAIK it'll fit. Someone will correct me quicklly if I'm wrong I expect.

ETKA shows a right mish-mash for these joints, even a 14/16 one that isi the most expensive of all, but thats a non-diff-locker one.

Aidan- heelp :!:

Posted: 17 Jan 2007, 02:09
by HarryMann
P.S. I thought GKN made them all, the front outer is a critical component, so I hope those Interparts bits are the business. esp. the boots should be tough nylon

Posted: 17 Jan 2007, 09:29
by sonic23
Only time will tell I guess Clive....
No doubt Jeremy and myself will let everyone know how they perform.

I believe the Interparts boots are Rubber though (I haven't received mine yet - but maybe Jeremy can confirm) , but I am going to fit some CV boot protectors - Futbus is in the process of prototyping some, so watch his space.

BTW - what do you use to bond the end of those cv boots?

Rich

Posted: 17 Jan 2007, 10:26
by Jeremy
The boots were Neoprene, but I'd be interested in those CV joint protectors...

Posted: 17 Jan 2007, 10:42
by HarryMann
Neoprene, that'll be it, the VW ones come in black or cream colour, but both same material, very tuf stuf!

There is the glue/sealer that VW offer somewhere in ETKA I think - Aidan or Andy McClements said it is an Arm+Leg job, so I used a good quality RTV sealant from a motor factors (essential to have around)

Andy or Aidan will also know what the physical difference is between the A and the F boot kits - I've forgotten :oops: But F is the later one of course

Do let us know if those splash seal come with the Interpart CVJ kit.

Also, on one of mine, the steel housing ring for that splash seal was mullered, so if its been done before, you might have to do a bit of cleaning up and gouging out the rust before the seal itself can be fitted nicely.

Important if you're going wading I'd say, esp. splashy along a beach!

Posted: 17 Jan 2007, 16:32
by toomanytoys
I got some CV boot protectors in prototype stage as well, based on the OE ones fitted to my doka..
I posted a question a while ago but nobody was interested.... :roll:

Posted: 17 Jan 2007, 16:47
by HarryMann
Oh! I think there'll be some interest in them, for those doing long distances on gravel and dry stony roads