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Should there be more fuel in the filter than this?
Posted: 30 Apr 2016, 20:39
by Waynerrr
Hi everyone. I've been having trouble getting my T25 started and running well. Having checked the fuel line I found there was no fuel in the filter. I put some fuel in (it was low and had been sat on a forward slope), sucked the petrol through and fitted everything back. I managed to get it started but it wouldn't idle - it has been sat for over six months so this isn't a surprise, however, should there be more fuel and less air in the filter than this?

Re: Should there be more fuel in the filter than this?
Posted: 30 Apr 2016, 21:55
by Oldiebut goodie
That type of filter should ideally be mounted vertically to allow them to fill and vent air. When I use the smaller version on my heaters I prefill them so that there is no air in at all.
Also - throw away those horrible clips and use the proper and correct sized hose clips. (That clip on the left looks like it is clamping nothing!)
Re: Should there be more fuel in the filter than this?
Posted: 01 May 2016, 06:56
by ermie571
vertically??? Good lord. Do you put it vertically there? Or use a different type of filter??
Ours are horizontal just like that.... (maybe better clips though)
EM
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Re: Should there be more fuel in the filter than this?
Posted: 01 May 2016, 07:01
by ajsimmo
It's fine fitted horizontally, they all are as standard, and the air will cause no problems, but as said - do change those clips for proper fuel hose clips.
Re: Should there be more fuel in the filter than this?
Posted: 01 May 2016, 07:08
by R0B
Not sure oldie meant that particular one Em,as i can't see how you could mount it vertically.
Re: Should there be more fuel in the filter than this?
Posted: 01 May 2016, 09:17
by Oldiebut goodie
Here is the instruction for the Webasto ones which are basically the same. At least get an upward slope to it, not downward.

Re: Should there be more fuel in the filter than this?
Posted: 03 May 2016, 14:21
by jamesakers
This is the fuel running through mine, seems to be OK horizontal:

Re: Should there be more fuel in the filter than this?
Posted: 03 May 2016, 14:29
by Oldiebut goodie
That certainly could do with letting some air out though!
Re: Should there be more fuel in the filter than this?
Posted: 03 May 2016, 14:39
by jamesakers
Oldiebut goodie wrote:That certainly could do with letting some air out though!
That's good to know! I'll be doing that when I get home then.
Re: Should there be more fuel in the filter than this?
Posted: 03 May 2016, 14:45
by bigherb
Don't worry about the air in the filter that is how they run in thousands of cars it doesn't make any difference, just sort those clips out.
Re: Should there be more fuel in the filter than this?
Posted: 04 May 2016, 06:45
by ghost123uk
The air doesn't matter. It can't be any other way if you think about how it operates. Anyway, even if you do manage to get it out, it will only do it again if / when you run out of fuel.
Yep change those clips, every motor shop sells
proper fuel pipe clips, usually on those rotating display stands full of bits n pieces

Then tie it up a bit, like the one in jamesakers picture above

Re: Should there be more fuel in the filter than this?
Posted: 04 May 2016, 07:13
by R0B
Jamesakers.You could do with pushing your hose onto the outlet of your filter a bit further.
Re: Should there be more fuel in the filter than this?
Posted: 04 May 2016, 07:23
by bigherb
R0B wrote:Jamesakers.You could do with pushing your hose onto the outlet of your filter a bit further.
His is correct the filters have dual sized connections 6mm outer 8mm inner so the 8mm inlet goes all the way up to the filter on the inner spigot and the 6mm outlet only goes on the outer spigot.
Re: Should there be more fuel in the filter than this?
Posted: 04 May 2016, 10:22
by Oldiebut goodie
Oldiebut goodie wrote:. (That clip on the left looks like it is clamping nothing!)

It's the clip that isn't over the spigot, not the hose.

All it is doing is clamping the hose shut hence the running problem.
The air is very easy to get out - just hold the open outlet vertically so that the air is at the top and with the top below the fuel level it will fill and expel the air, then quickly replace hose. (I would still prefer to use all of the filter rather than just the bottom portion).