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Hi All, I need wisdom!

After being in a discussion on the US forum Samba (http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewto ... &start=820" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;), I figured out that I am all abroad in the topic of sump gaskets.
There are the non bashplate versions: https://www.brickwerks.co.uk/vw-diesel- ... ubber.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
and the bashplate types: https://www.brickwerks.co.uk/sump-gaske ... affle.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

What is the advantage/disadvantage of each other? What is the bashplate designed for? Is it good to use in a 50° setup?
Searched through some forums but cannot find clear info. Some say the bashplate reduces oil foaming some say it reduce oil mist.
Anybody has experience or knowledge about this?

I cannot remember if my 1Z had the bashplate or the non bashplate gasket, but I put together with the non bashplate one. If the bashplate worth the effort I would change especially if it will reduce the oil in the berather system.

E D I T: I figured out that AAZ and 1Y (1.9 IDI) had the bashplate partnr: 037115220B
while the AEY/1Z/AFN (1.9 DI) had only a ruber seal partnr: 044103609D

http://parts-catalogs.club/volkswagen-t ... el2=103020" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I assume you are talking about the baffle plate/ windage plate? I thought that a bashplate went under syncros to protect the machinery etc.
I used the one that came with the engine but modified it - see here https://club8090.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.p ... e&start=15

Oldiebut goodie wrote:I assume you are talking about the baffle plate/ windage plate? I thought that a bashplate went under syncros to protect the machinery etc.
I used the one that came with the engine but modified it - see here https://club8090.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.p ... e&start=15

sorry, baffle plate
Thanx.

I tried my AEF engine with a standard windage tray, with a modified windage tray, with a normal rubber gasket, and with the standard fibre gasket.

I fitted an electric oil pressure gauge, and measured the variations in oil pressure. Not very scientifically, I admit, but I came to the conclusion that the windage tray had absolutely no advantages, did not prevent oil surge, and if anything was slightly worse than the normal rubber gasket. (probably due to preventing oil running back to the sump) The rubber gasket has been plagued with minor leaks, and can't be nipped up to make it seal, so next time the sump comes off, I'm going back to a standard fibre gasket.

[E D I T] Thank you OBG for reminding me! I know I said I thought the windage tray was an improvement, but after doing the pressure gauge exercise, I'm pretty sure it's no better [/E D I T]

I've not had any leaks from mine and I reused the one that came on the engine not a new one. I haven't tested oil pressure at all but I can say that I have never experienced any drop in pressure that has given an indication of the oil light coming on or flickering. Even with coming to a halt virtually and going round a roundabout after 100 miles steady driving it hasn't happened. Not very scientific I know but I am happy to keep it with the tray. It may well be that there is a critical point on oil level that can lead to frothing in some cases - maybe a very slight overfill? Who knows? The shape of our sumps must make a difference somehow but I haven't bothered to research where the oil level is in relation to the crankshaft at each angle.
I don't suppose that there is an easy answer. Whatever works for each person, after all these vans are individuals!