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Servicing your lighting switches etc, discussion not problem

Posted: 16 Nov 2015, 13:12
by ghost123uk
I got asked this in a pm, and thought I would share my thoughts on it.

Hi John
There seem to be loads of products on the market for cleaning electrical switches. Have you got a recommendation for the best one for light switches like the ones in our vans? Cheers.

OK, firstly I must say that in my experience (40+ years), "Switch Cleaner" as we generally know it is very little help when it comes to "servicing" 12 Volt lighting (etc) switches. Most of the stuff you can buy (Servisol, Maplins etc) is NOT designed to do much at all to the relatively heavy contacts found in normal automotive switches. It is designed to "service" the likes of volume controls (etc) on Hi-Fi systems etc, where it cleans the delicate carbon track and coats it in lubricant that is especially geared towards carbon tracks and the associated brass "wiper". It can be effective in delicate multi-contact switches (as found in Hi-Fi etc) to a lesser extent.

When you consider what goes on inside a 12 Volt lighting switch though, one can see why it is of little use (imho). We have some fairly heavy duty lumps of brass that make a firm contact with each other via a spring. These contacts "arc" a little every time they are used, much like the rotor arm of a vehicles distributor. This arcing causes both erosion of the mating surfaces and a build up of pretty solid / crusty carbon deposits. In my opinion, no spray is going to do much to help rectify either of those two symptoms of a dodgy switch (of that type).

I have also personally seen Servisol virtually dissolve certain plastics (I once ruined the plastic jack plug sockets on a guitar foot peddle with the stuff), so I can't recommend that (other than for most volume potentiometers).

If I was going to spray something onto 12 Volt vehicle switches, it would likely be this = "DP60" on Ebay, but in reality, if I had a suspicion a switch needed attention, I would either strip it, clean the contacts by scraping them and lubricating the moving parts with a light application of Vaseline or simply replace it.

Re: Servicing your lighting switches etc, discussion not problem

Posted: 16 Nov 2015, 23:22
by dave friday
Well...fitting a relay next to the [dodgy] switch is one way,maybe a high current mosfet [used as a switch] but you'd have to find a way to bias the gate [a couple of transistors etc]
But quite a lot of work when you can just replace the switch [as you say]
I like the "on"resistance of 0.025mohm of the sud45po3-15a mosfet compared to typical switch contact resistance of 0.3 to 0.5ohm!
And yes I have been doing some reading...

Re: Servicing your lighting switches etc, discussion not problem

Posted: 17 Nov 2015, 00:03
by CovKid
Trouble is, some switches carry more current than is ideal and whilst I'm not keen to keep using relays (yet more connections that can play up or fail) sometimes its the only solution. I tend to steer towards reorganising the layout first. The 6mm feed to the fusebox is a bit optimistic too :D

Re: Servicing your lighting switches etc, discussion not problem

Posted: 17 Nov 2015, 09:44
by dave friday
I had a problem the tap micro switch ,fitted a relay,bingo!
The pump draws a fair old current !

Re: Servicing your lighting switches etc, discussion not problem

Posted: 17 Nov 2015, 10:08
by ghost123uk
Of course we could go solid state switch route as dave friday suggests above, in fact we could re-wire the whole van and go down the CANBUS route that some modern cars use :twisted:
:run

Re: Servicing your lighting switches etc, discussion not problem

Posted: 17 Nov 2015, 10:10
by marlinowner
Best way to clean switches is to use them.

Re: Servicing your lighting switches etc, discussion not problem

Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 04:27
by Jeff J
I always use De-oxit, but I am not sure it is available in a spray can.