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Tdi ecu

Posted: 15 Aug 2015, 16:19
by KINGPRAWN
it seems like my ecu from a "96 golf tdi is too old to be supported by my " scangauge" ... (It never connects, just sits trying) !!!
If I find another ecu from a later car will it work ... Does something need to be done with the immobiliser within it ??? See them on eBay but no mention of what has to be done before I can fit it !

Re: Tdi ecu

Posted: 20 Aug 2015, 21:31
by davegsm82
What ECU do you have? Part number?

I've got a '97 MSA15 on my AFN TDi, it's supported by VAGCOM but don't think I've had success with Scangauge, not that I've ever wanted to use it that is.

Dave.

Re: Tdi ecu

Posted: 21 Aug 2015, 11:37
by KINGPRAWN
davegsm82 wrote:What ECU do you have? Part number?

I've got a '97 MSA15 on my AFN TDi, it's supported by VAGCOM but don't think I've had success with Scangauge, not that I've ever wanted to use it that is.

Dave.
Thanks ... I'm not sure but I'll have a good look when all the camping gear is done with !!!

Re: Tdi ecu

Posted: 21 Aug 2015, 18:51
by syncroandy
I have a pile of ECU's here and a Scangauge so can do some quick investigation if you wish. Give me a bell when you have your part number.

Re: Tdi ecu

Posted: 23 Aug 2015, 18:41
by KINGPRAWN
syncroandy wrote:I have a pile of ECU's here and a Scangauge so can do some quick investigation if you wish. Give me a bell when you have your part number.
Thanks Andy .....I'll be in touch very soon :)
Could you break the security part of it as I don't have the chip key as its already been decoded ... If that's the term ??

Re: Tdi ecu

Posted: 23 Aug 2015, 18:46
by KINGPRAWN
KINGPRAWN wrote:
syncroandy wrote:I have a pile of ECU's here and a Scangauge so can do some quick investigation if you wish. Give me a bell when you have your part number.
Thanks Andy .....I'll be in touch very soon :)
Could you break the security part of it as I don't have the chip key as its already been decoded on mine... If that's the term ??

Re: Tdi ecu

Posted: 24 Aug 2015, 20:08
by davegsm82
If Andy Can't do it then I can, I had to disable the immobiliser on mine to get it running 'headless' before I fitted it into the bus.

Dave.

Re: Tdi ecu

Posted: 25 Aug 2015, 09:41
by KINGPRAWN
davegsm82 wrote:If Andy Can't do it then I can, I had to disable the immobiliser on mine to get it running 'headless' before I fitted it into the bus.

Dave.
Thanks Dave ... Just waiting to hear back from him ! He's already told me that mine is a very early ecu ... Dated "94 ! Although from a "96 plate car ? Are you able to disable the immo ???

Re: Tdi ecu

Posted: 25 Aug 2015, 19:25
by syncroandy
Mr. Prawn, the nearest ECU I've got to your 028906021B, is a 028906021C (MSA12 type) from June 1994, which doesn't have immo, so I suspect your B suffix doesn't either. These very early ECU's have a slightly different pinout to the later ones, and use an external air pressure sensor module in addition to the hose connecting to the inlet manifold. They are 8-bit CPU's and have a different internal construction, and software.

I've been working on a customers job today, which has an AF suffix ECU from a year or so later (December 1995), this did have immo (which I've disabled). This is also a black plastic case, 8-bit CPU. I just confirmed my Scangauge will not communicate with it.

I also just checked a 028906021AT (Passat 1Z, March 1996, MSA15.5) ECU, which is a metal case, 16-bit CPU. This does communicate with my Scangauge. The only significant difference on the pinout of this versus your very early ECU, is the GP indicator lamp is on a different pin. With the correct tool, it's quite easy to pop the pin from the ECU connector and move it, but you'll have to decide whether you want to do this. I wouldn't recommend running without a GP indicator.

Andy

Re: Tdi ecu

Posted: 25 Aug 2015, 22:52
by KINGPRAWN
Thanks so much for your time here ... I'm happy do do what ever you recommend to get around this ... I'd be very grateful if you could supply a unit and guide me through doing what will need doing .... I don't have a glow plug indicator wired .... Andy

Re: Tdi ecu

Posted: 27 Aug 2015, 17:35
by syncroandy
Hi Andy, your replacement ECU is on its way to you..