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Hi, I've finally got a T25, needs all the usual work. Its taxed and MOT'd, so happy. The question is, theres no seat belts in the back, so what do people normally do. Do the kids just hover round or what? Are there any seatbelt anchorages anywhere? If so any piccies or any advice.
Thanks, Louise

hi,
mine was a panel van. it has a 3/4 width r n r bed in back. it has 2 lap belts. apparently you can fit 3 point belts with a bit of imagination. I just bought a bus- much easier!!

mine are fitted by 12mm bolts through the rear bulkhead into the engine bay area ... with huge [well 4" square steel plates on the outside...
Lapbelts, not 3 pt ones mind ... can do you some pics if desperado's ....

Not got any thankfully, but would agree with george, bolt the little perishers to the bulkhead out of sight and mind
Mike
Oh and Hi and welcome to the club..

metalmick8y wrote:Not got any thankfully, but would agree with george, bolt the little perishers to the bulkhead out of sight and mind
Mike
Oh and Hi and welcome to the club..

Best to use belts as interface with bulkhead bolts + kids, as if direct conact between Kids + bolts ... would mean having to drill medium sized holes into children + social services will have input !

Rear seat belts are a legal requirement. Look at Just Kampers for economical solution, lap belts are cheap. You may find existing bolt-holes behind the seats already fixed to the sloping metalwork that covers the engine, also on the inner walls between the windows, could be behind the trim.

slightly misleading that.my camper has no rear seatbelts.and passes the mot each year.if it was a legal req.it would fail.i would of thought....

Rear seat belts are a legal requirement.

mine too...as is the mini

Sorry, you`re quite right, there are some exceptions as well:

If a vehicle has no seat belts (eg a classic car), a child aged 3 years and over may travel in a rear seat unrestrained.
A child under 3 years old may not travel in cars, vans or goods vehicles which do not have seat belts installed. if there are no seat belts fitted in the vehicle, then a child under 3 years old may not travel in it.

My vehicle is a camper van with no rear seat belts
A child under 3 years old must use the correct baby/child seat, such a child could only travel in the van if the child restraint can be used with a front seat belt. A child of 3 years and above and up to 135 cms in height must use child seats/boosters in the rear where seat belts are fitted but may travel unrestrained in a rear seat. The new rules do not require people to fit seat belts in the rear of vehicles where the seats do not have seat belts, but remember it is not safe for children to travel unrestrained. Vehicles dating from April 1982 have seat belt anchorage points if they don't have seat belts - so fitting is easy.

Can`t find the date of manufacture after which rear belts must be fitted, had a trawl round the Gov website but it`s not obvious.

I would have thought though that it`s best to make sure you have rear belts fitted anyway, they are after all there for good reason An unrestrained person/child flying forward is likely to knock your head clean off just before they exit the windscreen

E D I T: dates for seat belt fitment, fronts was from 1983, rears was from 1991.

Westy.Club.Joker wrote:
I would have thought though that it`s best to make sure you have rear belts fitted anyway,

You may think that but It's freedom of choice...

--vans with factory fitted windows will have seat belt bolt holes--panel vans with windows cut in wont unless theyve bin retro fitted--lap belts are the easiest--you can fit inertia reel belts in the back of window vans, but obviously if its got camper furniture yool ony fit one side----your never gonna be as safe in a 20 yr old vehicle as a modern one---& a 60mph crash in a T25 camper is always gonna be pretty messy--

freedom of choice....quite right mate. You sometimes need to make the choice for your kids though. £50 for a pair of lap belts is cheap insurance in my eyes, but I`m not out for an argument on the subject. You pays yer money, you takes yer chance

20 year old T25..... what would you rather be in? Old T25 or a modern Fiesta? I know which would be MY choice My `van would go right through a modern car, and out the other side. This has been talked about before, someone posted a link where a T25 had been in collision with a new Lexus The Lexus was barely recognisable, the T25 had a mangled bumper and front quarter, the door still opened Panzerwagen comes to mind

Thank you all for your replies so far. This is a 'C' reg T25, not factory fitted interior and will prob need to be started again from scratch as its not great. So far, the kitchen are is all down the offside of the veh and the rear bench seat which sorta slides forward and the back where you lean your back on falls flat turns into the bed which takes up the rest of the space. I cant see where you would fit a seatbelt fixing anywhere tws the offside of this veh because of the units that are in the way. Any suggestions, pictures would be great. My kids arent younguns, but at the end of the day if I had to brake hard or in a collision, there is a long way to go forwards before even colliding with the rear of the front seats, if you know what I mean, and even though they arent young, quick impact would send them hurtling forwards without any chance at all of staying on the bench seat. Does that make sense at all? Lou

just what I was going to point towards matt - or find a link in the wiki