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Engine removal guide
Posted: 08 Jan 2015, 00:02
by gollfy
Hi all,
Taking on the job of removing my 1.9 dg wbx engine.
Any tips or any good guides anywhere? Have a Haynes manual
Thanks all for your help
Dave
Re: Engine removal guide
Posted: 08 Jan 2015, 06:19
by itchyfeet
Quite a long thread but lots of info here
why are you dropping the engine?
some disagreement on how much to take off before dropping the engine but if you are doing any major engine work it's all coming off anyway and I find it easier to take it off while the engine is suspended rather than on the ground.
Also a stripped engine is much lighter and earier to move, I use a small trolley and a ramp to get it into my shed to work on.
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Re: Engine removal guide
Posted: 08 Jan 2015, 20:55
by gollfy
no engine work, just some welding & tidying up round engine bay.
Is it easier to split gear box and engine when dropping or just drop the whole lot together?
Re: Engine removal guide
Posted: 08 Jan 2015, 21:12
by itchyfeet
In that case I'd drop engine and gearbox together ( not done this myself only done seperately)
Jack up and on ramps
Disconnect batt
coolant pipes split
electrics disconnected, starter, ignition, sensors,carb electrics, reverse light switch, etc
fuel pipes disconnected
carb trunking and airfilter disconnected with any hot air pipes to exhaust.
vac pipe to servo disconnected
throttle linkage disconnected
Clutch hydraulics disconnected or slave cylinder unbolted
gear linkage removed from box
drive shafts removed from box
some tinware around the exhaust silencer unbolted
Support gearbox with hydraulic jack
gearbox mount off
straps around engine to inlet manufold and fence post across hatch
engine bar bolts off
Check nothing left
lowers out on straps and jack slowly
Re: Engine removal guide
Posted: 09 Jan 2015, 00:29
by mrhutch
*addendum*
swear about the one thing (earth strap/coolant hose) that you forgot to disconnect
Re: Engine removal guide
Posted: 09 Jan 2015, 09:55
by ermie571
addendum to addedum
go to brickwerks to order the bit that you forgot to disconnect...and any other bits that bit broke!
Re: Engine removal guide
Posted: 09 Jan 2015, 16:10
by itchyfeet
Better still leave it in place and work around it
can't see what welding needs engine out
Re: Engine removal guide
Posted: 16 Jan 2015, 22:25
by gollfy
Thanks all for you advise, everything done apart from engine mounts but I need to ask a final question.
The gear box mounting is fair enough 4 bolts however my question relates to the engine support bar that spans the front of the engine.
If I am dropping it all, should I drop the with the support bar attached by removing the 2 nuts and bolts either side, I would have to cut them with a grinder as they are corroded
or
Do it the normal way and disconnect from the two engine mounts ?
Kind Regards
David
Re: Engine removal guide
Posted: 16 Jan 2015, 22:29
by ghost123uk
The normal way is to undo the bar at each end and remove it with the engine. Note, as the engine comes out from underneath, I don't think it could work any other way.
Re: Engine removal guide
Posted: 17 Jan 2015, 08:03
by itchyfeet
Agreed cut them off if you have too, if they are that rusty you want to replace anyway as these are rather important
make sure you replace with high tensile steel 8.8 and nylon inserted shakeproof nuts, don't use stainless as stainless is nothing like as strong.
Re: Engine removal guide
Posted: 05 Jul 2015, 17:52
by waltraud
Anyone know the right size bolt for petrol engine support bar to body? X4. ....I'm guessing m8 x 30?? Cheers
Re: Engine removal guide
Posted: 05 Jul 2015, 17:59
by silverbullet
Sounds about right to me. It has to sandwich 3mm of spreader plate, 5mm of chassis flange (two skins) plus about 2mm on the foot of the bar. Add two washers at 1mm and a nylock, plus a few threads showing for safety.
25mm should be ok.
Re: Engine removal guide
Posted: 05 Jul 2015, 18:12
by waltraud
Thanks. 8.8 or 12.9 tensile....not sure what the difference is!
Re: Engine removal guide
Posted: 05 Jul 2015, 18:27
by tobydog
waltraud wrote:Thanks. 8.8 or 12.9 tensile....not sure what the difference is!
12.9 are 50% higher tensile strength than 8.8.
Re: Engine removal guide
Posted: 05 Jul 2015, 18:31
by waltraud
Cheers!