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My first question - it's a hot one
Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 11:06
by Bobass
Morning all.
This is my first post (2nd attempt - forgot to add a subject last time).
I've been on here for a few months, under another rubbish name, lapping up the info and creating an endless list of jobs for my new pride and joy - 'The Cool Moule' - 1983 1.6D pop-top.
How do I delete my old account/name - should I contact moderator?
My first real question is one of heat. I've seen all the info regarding ebers and propex, but on my current limited budget, these seem a tad expensive. I have been looking at these catalytic heaters and was wondering if anyone had any views or experience of them. See link: (last heater on page)
http://www.jacksons-camping.co.uk/heate ... eaters.htm
I hope this post is the first of many - and not all questions.
Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 12:23
by matt
Welcome Mr B Ass
now then, they are great for heat in a short blast
However, the fire risk is huge, followed very quickly by the death by Carbon monoxide risk........
you'd be far safer using a hook up and a cheap as chips fanny heater...
Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 12:23
by owlets
If you are planning on staying on sites mainly with hook up, I'd suggest a low wattage oil filled radiator
Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 12:26
by matt
Oil rads are ok, but you can beat a fanny for a quick warm blast
Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 12:49
by owlets
I find the fanny's too noisey if you want to run them at night, although they are really good to blow hot air into the awning.
Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 13:26
by Bobass
Cheers guys
I don't generally plan to be near hookups, so something gas or diesel is a necessity.
A second hand diesel eber fitted -- how much are we talking?
Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 13:36
by matt
fit it yer sen, Even I managed it
Owen !!!! jeez, you global warmer you, heating an awning indeed
Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 13:50
by Bobass
OK OK
I'll do my research this weekend.
Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 14:11
by owlets
matt wrote:fit it yer sen, Even I managed it
Owen !!!! jeez, you global warmer you, heating an awning indeed
Only done it once..........well I didn't do it my Mum did. We were campoing with them at the C&CC site near the Clent Hills. We'd been for a walk and gotten wet so she wanted to dry things out. Made the awning roasty toasty.
Bobass..........how about a
black cat heater? supposed to be good but the temp of the flame is low and safe.
Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 17:09
by matt
Dont want to be a party pooper, but I recon fires in such a small space is just to much of a risk
if youre that cold, just put the grill on, at least a duvet corner/trouser leg/tee towel cant drop/brush past/into it
flames, humans and a space 5 ft times 15 foot just aint good
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Matt, 8090 Health and safety rep and Cautios Father who cant spill
Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 17:32
by kevtherev
Get under the duvet and shag then throw off the duvet and the heat blast is fab ! ...............even cheaper and greener
Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 17:47
by Ivor Brownun
only one problem with that Kev is that you can end up with a by-product that will hang around for at least 16 years,
Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 17:50
by matt
Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 17:56
by owlets
As I understand it the Black Cat heater puts out good heat but if you were to put a piece of paper directly onto the mesh it wouldn't catch fire cos the temp is too low
Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 18:10
by matt
The Coleman Black Cat Personal Heater is a portable and compact heater for a wide variety of outdoor activities including camping, fishing, gardening, building site, etc.
Using Flameless catalytic technology this makes the Black Cat heater much more fuel efficient, providing a soft consistent radiant heat which helps to make the heater whisper quiet.
The Coleman Black Cat personal heater has a built-in pressure regulator which maintains constant heat output regardless of altitude and down to below 0°C temperatures.
Features:
* Operates off Coleman 500 cartridges (not included)
* Power: 800 watt Automatic piezo ignition
* Wire stand also serves as a handle
* Built-in pressure regulator
* Safe and user-friendly flameless catalytic technology
* Large 20cm heating head
* Weight: 1,370g
We were pleased to find the Black Cat is small enough to be carried when space is limited, but chucks out a surprising amount of heat. It's relatively cheap to run, and because it's flameless resolves some of the worries about using a heater whilst camping. The piezo ignition means it's easy to light (no matches!) and it completely warmed a midsized ( 3mt x 3mt ) tent living area in 30 minutes or so. Because it's a Butane / Propane mix it can be used in lower temperatures, and we found a single large cylinder lasted four to five hours of continuous use.
yep, you're right Owen, but the flame will still rob all the oxygen in an enclosed space, note the word "outdoor" in the Blurb (55)
My olds went down this route, till they got in touch with the C&C Club
and the H&S bloke said they were only recommened for awning's as ventalion is vital
your choice, but its hard to wake up dead