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Slightly warm air from heater on cold setting

Posted: 09 Jul 2014, 12:02
by Cruz
Sorry for not searching but I'm using a smartphone as I've no broadband at the moment and it's driving me potty.

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Probably answering my own question here but did I once read somewhere that warm air when heater lever is set to cold is caused by the heater valve not closing properly?

When the heater control is fully over to cold the air through the vents is slightly warm. I know it's summer but its never exactly cold on cool days. I have been under the van and the cable is free and moves the valve arm fully in both directions so I assume it's the valve that's on it's way out?

Am I correct in assuming the internal workings of the valve degrade over time and don't fully close off the hot water supply, gradually get worse then fail completely?

Ta :ok

Re: Slightly warm air from heater on cold setting

Posted: 09 Jul 2014, 14:09
by kevtherev
It's the only way the matrix gets coolant, via the valve.
So I guess whatever you say.. it's worn or not closing
I think I have a spare here.

Re: Slightly warm air from heater on cold setting

Posted: 09 Jul 2014, 20:57
by Cruz
Any tips for changing it without losing enough coolant to have to bleed?

Re: Slightly warm air from heater on cold setting

Posted: 10 Jul 2014, 08:45
by 1664
Cruz wrote:Any tips for changing it without losing enough coolant to have to bleed?
Close old valve and close new valve. Remove old valve from heater control cable so it's hanging free.
Pull one end of pipe off old valve and immediately push onto new valve. Both valves should prevent water flowing out (even the worn one as the water is not under pressure). Then swap remaining pipe over.
You do lose a little water during swap over but a finger over the end of the pipe the moment it's removed keeps it to a minimum, I lost very little and when I say very little I mean certainly not enough to warrent a coolant bleed, and even so the water system should cope with some loss as there is the old header tank for exactly that (I think).

Re: Slightly warm air from heater on cold setting

Posted: 10 Jul 2014, 09:12
by kevtherev
Hey! that's what I was going to say :evil:

Re: Slightly warm air from heater on cold setting

Posted: 10 Jul 2014, 09:50
by 1664
kevtherev wrote:Hey! that's what I was going to say :evil:
Well you can do it next time :mrgreen:

Re: Slightly warm air from heater on cold setting

Posted: 10 Jul 2014, 10:15
by ninja.turtle007
I have the same issue. Can these valves be bought new?

E D I T: yes, £7.99.

Re: Slightly warm air from heater on cold setting

Posted: 25 Jul 2014, 20:59
by Cruz
£7.99 valve snapped

New one bought from VW direct. Doing the swap tomorrow (saturday)

its nice how vw put the valve in such a tight place :/

Re: Slightly warm air from heater on cold setting

Posted: 29 Jul 2014, 15:47
by tensilekid
hi is the cable outer clipped in the correct position (its held by a clip under the dash) so when lever is fully "cool" it moves the valve to fully closed. moving mine 10mm cured this on my van

Re: Slightly warm air from heater on cold setting

Posted: 29 Jul 2014, 16:35
by Cruz
It was, it is, its been replaced with a new working valve