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got a friend who has a t3 with aaz engine / jx bits fitted .
he asked me to check the oil it was not showing on dipstick so he changed the oil well he removed the sumpplug but nothing came out then he replaced the filter old one was full of oil and filled up with 4.5 litres the engine runs fine but cant help feel its over full of oil i said ill have a look and recommended changing the oil again today but nothing is coming out the sump not a drip of oil nether of us understand this problem its got the jx sump fitted on the aaz block all done by a garage before he bought the camper .
oil level is an inch above standard top mark on dip stick
he hasnt done any more than 30 miles since oil fill

Have you checked to see if the sump plug hole is blocked?
If your using a standard jx dipstick the min mark is your new max mark (aaz block is taller)

no didnt poke at it but surley there would be a drip but nothing dry as a bone
looks like the jx dipstick its an inch easy above the top standard mark
ill give it a poke tomorrow see hes trying to get away this weekend but i said i wouldnt to much oil is just as bad as to little

I wouldn't drive it or even run it with possibly double the amount of oil in!
Screwdriver in the hole with a big drainage can underneath ready - you may be looking at 7-8 litres of oil on the deck. Blocked with sludge is the first thought, second is that the drain has been welded up/blocked for some reason.

Oldiebut goodie wrote:I wouldn't drive it or even run it with possibly double the amount of oil in!
Screwdriver in the hole with a big drainage can underneath ready - you may be looking at 7-8 litres of oil on the deck. Blocked with sludge is the first thought, second is that the drain has been welded up/blocked for some reason.

engine was done about 1500 miles ago aparently going by receipts from garage mind going by the looks of things glow plugs look like there original replaced 1500 mile ago they had cut the azz cold start cable went through bulkhead not attached luckly the original t3 cold start cable is there so sorted that out for him starts better now .

if say i poke with screwdriver and its welded up i guess its undo the two 13mm bolts that hold the filler tube on thats going to be messy i gguess cant thing what else to do ill keep you all posted with my findings

Or just buy one of those oil siphon pumps, stick it down the oil filler and remove all the oil. Certainly a lot cleaner than trying to remove the filler.

And just because a grange did it, doesn't mean they did anything to the sump other than swap it over to the new engine. As for the cold start, I've had a jx and a aaz and never had to use the cold start. Could be a idea to check the pump timing and other stuff is spot on.

all sorted the sump has never had a hole its cast with the sump plug threading and hole and sump plug but not open . took the oil filler tube off 6 litres came out including what was in the filter . replaced with 4.5 new mann filter the proper big one perfect now .apart from another problem ill do a seperate post for that.
thanks for your help

How many years had that sump been used like that is the question!

Oldiebut goodie wrote:How many years had that sump been used like that is the question!

its worrying if i was him id either get a new sump or remove it and drill it
but is that normal for a jx sump not to have a hole to drain out of

Some have two sump plugs, mine has.. Normally referred to as a syncro sump, but i think some 2wd's got them too. one of my plugs is behind the silencer, the other at the opposite end of the sump, offside.

my two t3s have one just behind exhaust but my mates one has one behind exhaust 13mm socket head not drilled after threads and the rear one is a big stud with a 21mm nut on never seen that whats your one like

the one on mine is just the standard one (gearbox end)
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front one looks a bit different and is flush with the sump with a small allen key. I have a brand new jx sump here and it has the allen key type at both ends, like this


maybe your mates one is the weird valve type one?
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yes thats it the weird valve type sump plug thats the same as on my two aswell as my friends with the aaz
thanks mate