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Im collecting parts to convert my 83 dg to gti. After reading through posts it looks like there are different types of diesel engine bars- different lengths or fitments? ? I have bars, alloy mounts, bellhousing and input shaft so far.
How to tell which engine bars I have and if they will fit with agg engine and 4 speed gbox code DT. Thanks.

Early ones bolt to valance but have a rubber mount between the plates and arm.

Late ones are solid with no rubber bush/mount.

Which ones have you got?

99% sure they're solid with no bushes.

Have checked, all solid. Does this mean the engine could not mate to 4 speed ptrl gbox code DT as it is?

yep.

Sounds like I need to swap for some early bars- which for some reason seem cheaper ? Do you know if anything else likely to be early/late issue and if I can keep the gearbox mount as it is in place? Cheers

Missed the word NOT when I read your post, meant 'yep' it will fit/work.

Sorry for my buffoonery chap

No problem:evil: in thatcase just for info when and why would anyone need to fit the earlier bars? Cheers for all your help....domt spose you might have a plug n play wbx to agg loom lyimg aroumd for sale

Or even a spelling lesson for me.....

Never used early bars, always stayed away from them as later ones are a lot more common and easier to blast/paint and changing bushes over is just one more hassle. I think I read somewhere recently they place the engine differently to late ones. Don't know if this is true though

Looms? Sick of the site of them now

Just done two in the last month or so.

Never made a pin board up to do them as with Dokas I always put them in the void between load bed and where the engine hatch would be on a van, and then on vans everyone wants the relay box in a different place


More than happy to take pics/send measurements or if you post me your loom will happily strip it down and label it for you to finish so you can enjoy my misery. People get scared with it, but if you can do the spannering, you can do the wiring. Just make sure you use the factory crimps/heat shrink and not halfords specials that 'someone' made me use as they were too tight to spend £20 on a proper finish.

Its really not that difficult though. Get Garyd s fab file.

Sit with radio on and 20 fags and 3l of full fat coke and away you go.

PM me if you need owt chap.

Fair play mate, I'm sure you are right re the wiring phobia! I'll have to have a shot.

I thought the bar types were the other way round ???. I have two sets of solid ones here, one set i removed myself from an early 82/83 van and the 90 caravelle i just sold had a rubber bushed set. Would this have not been an upgrade to try and stop vibration ?.
Anyhow my agg bolted very easily in on solid bars and the original abd gearbox with 4sp mount. Unfortunately the gearbox copped a strop and was replaced with a dk Aircooled box and i had to lengthen the mount and mod the linkage. Apparently rjes do a modded mount for when fitting a subaru to compensate for re-positioning backwards.

Anyone have good suggestion of where I could get an egg and loom etc etc all taken out and ready.......I'm on a street iin. Hackey so can't easily get a whole car to butcher..[BLACK SPADE SUIT]

Sorry to but in on your convo but you say you've done an agg into your bus. I'm also doing the same conversion but I've just had my donor vehicle nicked, and I'm after an early inlet manifold as apparently that's what's needed to save butchering the body work. All I'm asking is do you know the manifold part number as I'm being told "yes mate this will fit trust me" by nearly every second parts dealer . Cheers Orbit.

AFAIK all AGG manifolds were the same, never seen anything but one type fitted.

On iPad so copy and paste is pants for links but paste in


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To ebay search bar, this shape manifold Is an AGG one. But.......

You HAVE to have an AGG head to fit it to, it won't work on a PB head due to injectors/ports. So if you buy a separate donor engine make sure its the right one